- From: Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:02:17 -0400
- To: love26@gorge.net
- CC: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org, Wendy Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
William Loughborough wrote: > GG:: "We are currently involved in the evaluation..." > > WL: Who's "We"? > In my signature. > > I just don't think that characterizing lynx as "legacy technology" is > any more useful than thinking of UNIX as "old hat". Granted. What is Lynx's market share? For those with a disability? For those without one? Those using older technology?. I have to argue for progress. Economics is an issue we can't overlook. > The problems of > JavaScript have to do with standards conformance, proprietary vs. open > standards, interoperability, and lots of other issues relating to simply > paying attention instead of heading up some primrose path of "latest, > coolest, etc." stuff. Javascript was introduced into this product before the release of WCAG. Before web accessiblity was in the public consciouness. You can not deny that Javascript is widely used. I would hazard a guess that Javascript web developers are approaching a majority. Javascript is used enough that it should be drawn into open standards. W3C should be providing guidance for Javascript developers, developing standards to get Javascript back on track after being derailed when Microsoft introduced it's own version. Javascript is too useful and too widely used to deny it's use. The fact that the developers I speak of have created this product to work equally well in IE and Netscape versions of Javascript shows they have been paying attention. Perhaps they are the ones to assist in developing standards for JS. > In most cases the choices were made to use non-standard constructs by > people who should have known better and the fact that retrofitting is a > bitch while possibly a defense in this matter is still at best specious. > If they are truly talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars cost in > this thing then they should seek better programmers and re-examine their > pricing structure. This is a very large complex piece of software, that retrofitting will involve a huge untaking. Rebuilding from scratch may be a more economical approach, but given the investment in developing the product, would be unrealistic. > Incompetence is not a valid excuse and undue burden doesn't allow for > self-imposed burdens. If this comes off as a flame, so be it. They got > caught polluting the stream and now want to avoid sharing the cost of > the cleanup (full stop.) Incompetence is not an issue. These developers are innovators that are doing their best to meet the accessibility guidelines. They are leading their field in adopting accessible design practices in course authoring software. They came to us with the honorable intention of making Web based education accessible to people with disabilities. Yes they are retrofitting. Not out of incompetence, but out of the untimely introduction of the WCAG after they had made all those unfortunate design decisions. Your words are harsh, and uncalled for. These people are trying, and want guidance, not critisism. What can they do to rectify to situation without giving their right arm? > > > -- > Love. > ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE > http://dicomp.pair.com -- Greg Gay Centre for Academic and Adaptive Technology University of Toronto 416 978-4043 ICQ 9020587
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