- From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:19:40 -0400
- To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Does anyone know, what is the closest we could come in the Dublin Core to an attribute type of [authoring-organization-defined] status-or-mood? The notion of a W3C 'Recommendation' has connotations which involve a shared view as to the stability and efficacy of the technology articulated in the document. The stability and efficacy notions are software engineering generic notions. The collective opinion is a voting generic notion. The W3C is a unique organizational entity. But one could use generic logic language to form an assertion about shared believe state with regard to primitive notions imported from software engineering. There is a definite connotation of "people should use it" but the strict sense of the imperative mode has been softened [for reasons suppressed here]. Al At 09:18 AM 6/15/99 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote: >Hello, > >I think the WG should strengthen a statement >in the guidelines that any important >content inserted by a style sheet be available in the >document source as well (rationale: device-independence, >users can override styles, etc.) > >The line between content and style is blurred by some >parts of CSS. Style sheets may cause numbers or words >to be generated in the rendering structure, just as they >can insert images. Most users will have a difficult time >distinguishing the document tree from the rendering structure, >and will have to read the style sheets to find >out whether "1.2" was generated by styles (and therefore >may be changed through styles) or inserted by hand. > >In the Techniques document of 5 May, we raise this issue >obliquely: > > Text generated by style sheets is not part of the > document source and will not be available to assistive > technologies that access content through DOM, level 1 > ([DOM1]). > >I think we need to make a stronger point. > >Here's an example. W3C Recommendations use a background image >in the upper left hand corner to indicate on graphical browsers that >that they are Recommendations. There is no alt text for this >image since it's inserted by a style sheet (and CSS >has no >mechanism for specifying alt text. On the one hand, >one can argue that if the information is being inserted >by a style sheet it is only meant for style, not content, >and therefore not alt text is necessary. On the other >hand, people argue that one shouldn't put text in images >but should use styles so that the text is accessible. >Also, languages like SVG that create graphics will real >text in them tout the accessibility benefits. > >Does the title of the document suffice to convey >the document status? > > - Ian > >-- >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs >Tel/Fax: +1 212 684-1814 >
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