- From: Nir Dagan <nir@nirdagan.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:25:44 -0400 (EDT)
- To: thatch@us.ibm.com
- cc: Jason White <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
A language of a phrase is an accessibility issue since a speaking browser can't read French correctly knowing that it is iso-8859-1 and assuming that it is English. This is a difference between visual and speech medium. That is, if a user speaks both English and French and so does his speaking browser but the browser is not informed which is which, we have an accessibility problem. One can claim that a browser can guess the language in all kinds of ways. But then it could also guess MIME types too. Nir Dagan http://www.nirdagan.com mailto:nir@nirdagan.com "There is nothing quite so practical as a good theory." -- A. Einstein On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 thatch@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > Jason said: "a priority 2 rating should be retained in respect of > multilingual material." > > Priority 2 says: A Web content developer should satisfy this checkpoint. > Otherwise, one or more groups will find it difficult to access information > in the document. Satisfying this checkpoint will remove significant > barriers to accessing Web documents. > > 1) I believe that satisfying this requirement will remove no barriers, let > alone remove significant barriers. > > 2) It is inconceivable to me why the lang attribute internal to the page > should be priority 2, while the lang attribute on the html element is > priority 3. As Phill has already indicated, IBM's Home Page Reader will be > supporting the lang attribute on the HTML element but not within the page. > I don't think the lang element at the top should be priority 2 either. > > 3) I don't see why the language of a phrase is an accessibility issue for > person's with disabilities -- even if either this or 6.3 were yielding > significant benefits. > > Jim Thatcher > IBM Special Needs Systems > www.ibm.com/sns > thatch@us.ibm.com > (512)838-0432 > > > > Jason White <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> on 04/26/99 06:25:20 PM > > To: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > cc: (bcc: James Thatcher/Austin/IBM) > Subject: Re: PRI - 9 LANG Attribute > > > > > > In anticipation of user agent support for the LANG attribute, in > recognition of the language-dependent nature of text to speech and braille > conversion processes, and taking into account the difficulties raised by > multilingual documents, I propose that no change be made to the priority > of this checkpoint. > > If it were only a priority 3 requirement today, then it would be rarely > implemented, even in multilingual documents. Then, when user agents start > supporting the LANG attribute, it will not be of benefit due to the > absence of this important linguistic distinction in marked up documents. > Therefore, a priority 2 rating should be retained in respect of > multilingual material. Also, this requirement needs to be considered in > relation to the WAI user agent guidelines, which ought to recommend > implementation of the LANG attribute by user agents and assistive > technologies. > > > > > > >
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