- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:54:53 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Hello, In the Proposed Recommendation, checkpoint 5.3 (priority 2) reads "Avoid using tables for layout." During the teleconference today, we discussed this enigmatic checkpoint and its priority. The discussion began as I recounted how, when analyzing the accessibility of the W3C home page, I (and some other W3C Team members) felt as though the page was still accessible despite featuring a layout table. The W3C home page is designed so that it still makes sense when table markup is ignored (e.g., by Lynx). Checkpoint 5.3 as written today means that if you use any table for layout, your page or site cannot conform to the Double-A level. And yet, the W3C home page does not seem like it poses significant barriers to accessibility. I would like to propose the following rewrite of the checkpoint: 5.3: Design all layout tables so that the content is presented logically when the table is linearized. Priority 1. This checkpoint then resembles checkpoint 6.1, which reads: 6.1 Organize content logically using appropriate structural markup so the organization remains clear even when associated style sheets are turned off or are not supported. Linearization will be discussed in the techniques. Some will argue that using a table for layout is a misuse of markup and I agree with them. We must emphasize style sheets as the right way to lay out pages. This proposal will not please purists, who have strong arguments for ensuring that tables be used only for tabular data. Jason White has successfully argued that BLOCKQUOTE not be used to indent text as this misuse confuses some tools. The same reasoning could be applied in this case, and that would be a strong argument for keeping the current checkpoint wording. However, if there are ways to use tables that "transform gracefully" (and that obey other checkpoints) AND if readily available technologies can linearize those tables (as Lynx does), then please consider this proposal. Thank you, - Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WAI-WEBCONTENT-19990324 -- Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) Tel/Fax: (212) 684-1814 http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
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