- From: John Gardner <gardner@physics.orst.edu>
- Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:44:11 -0900
- To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>, nir@nirdagan.com (Nir Dagan), w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Cc: "T. V. Raman" <raman@Adobe.COM>, gardner@physics.orst.edu
There hasn't been much attention paid to math lately. I am glad it is coming around again. Most in-line use of math could be adequately represented today by writing words in the Alt tag. A good screen reader will read the alt tag smoothly. Personally I do not believe that it is possible for an author today to do anything except write a longdesc word description of displayed equations that would make them usable by people with severe print disabilities. And I am dubious that long complicated equations would be very usable in word form. This is only "better than nothing". It may not even be better than nothing. I do not believe that either Netscape or Internet Explorer has yet implemented longdesc. PW Webspeak has. At least they say they have, but I haven't found anything to test it on yet. MathML is certainly capable of providing accessible math. My group has already submitted a proposal to the NSF to make a mathML plug-in that would render mathML in a linear form compatible with screen readers. This could be done quickly but speaking linear math is clumsier than one would like. Our next step would be to make a self-voicing plug-in that can render math more naturally. My concern is that I do not see any groundswell of acceptance of mathML. Friends tell me that the visual rendering is currently really ugly, and nobody wants to put ugly things on the web when they have the choice. So mathML may soon be accessible to blind people, but if it isn't accessible to sighted people it won't be used. The authoring guideline is simple. Use mathML. However you can't expect authors to follow that guideline until browsers support mathML acceptably. John Gardner At 09:48 AM 12/09/1998 -0600, Jon Gunderson wrote: >My main concern related to math is that I would like to point to the >guidelines for faculty on the UIUC campus for how to make accessible WWW >documents. At least 30 to 40 percent of the instructors on campus use some >type of simple math and/or complex math in their WWW documents. There is >no mention of how to represent mathematical expressions in the current >guidelines. Currently most instructors use images, which we know are not >very accessible. Since educators may be the first group forced (due to >educational legislation in the USA) to use the guidelines, I think it would >be important to have a technique or section the clearly indicates what to >do now and in the future for math with some examples to demonstrate. > >John Gardner at Oregon State or T. V. Raman at Adobe may be a good >reference for this issue, if the working group wants to pursue it. > >Now: >Some type of alt text or longdesc that represents math? > >Future: >MathML ? > >Jon > >Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP >Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology >Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services >University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign >1207 S. Oak Street >Champaign, IL 61820 > >Voice: 217-244-5870 >Fax: 217-333-0248 >E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu >WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund > http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess >
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