- From: Greg Lowney <greglo@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:57:14 -0700
- To: "Charles (Chuck) Oppermann" <chuckop@microsoft.com>, "'jkrieger@cast.org'" <jkrieger@cast.org>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
I would add that users of Windows and some other operating systems are used to finding access keys on nearly all dialogs and forms. Keyboard-centric users find they save time and effort, and this is even more important for users who have difficulty typing. We consider it a critical goal that applications and forms written in HTML be no less accessible than those written with other technologies. Another suggestion might be that UA provide an option to visually indicate the access key for any element, such as by appending a constructed string to the end of the label or even inserting a textual label where there was none. This would certainly alter the presentation and layout of the page, but no worse than the ability to force all ALT= text to be displayed in place of images regardless of the image's size. -----Original Message----- From: Charles (Chuck) Oppermann [SMTP:chuckop@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 4:30 PM To: 'jkrieger@cast.org'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: ACCESSKEY on FORM controls The Microsoft Enable web site uses ACCESSKEY=Q to get to the QuickLink list box of choices. A experienced user of the site can go in, press ALT+Q, arrow to the correct link and press Enter to get to it. If using Tab navigation, they would have to wade through a long series of links. Large forms will have difficulty with assigning unique identifiers. ACCESSKEY comes in handy for HTML dialogs and smaller forms. I would say that if your form is so large that you cannot come up with unique ACCESSKEY's, then it's a usability problem and suggestion that the page be broken up. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Krieger [mailto:jkrieger@cast.org] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 8:31 AM To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: ACCESSKEY on FORM controls > 8.9. Furnish keyboard shortcuts for form elements This guideline's example places the ACCESSKEY attribute on the LABEL associated with the form control. 1. If this is the preferred method of doing this sort of thing, then why do all the form controls have ACCESSKEY attributes themselves? 2. <BUTTON> and <INPUT TYPE=BUTTON> don't have labels associated with them and the ACCESSKEY should be directly specified on these controls. 3. I don't quite understand why we even have access keys for forms at all. It seems to me that for any practical web-based form it isn't really usefull not to mention kind of crazy if the keys change on every web page. On some forms, because of their size, using accesskeys would be impossible. Does someone have a comprehensive vision of how this is supposed to be used? Josh Krieger CAST
Received on Friday, 19 June 1998 02:56:57 UTC