- From: Mike Paciello <paciello@yuri.org>
- Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 09:56:05 -0400
- To: A.Flavell@physics.gla.ac.uk, dd@w3.org
- Cc: WAI Guidelines List <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Can I briefly suggest that half the problems related to the ALT-text discussions are simply based on user knowledge we don't know or are unsure of? Discussions like this tend to be very subjective in nature....and while I appreciate that it's critical for the WG to "get it right", I don't think it's possible until you implement user interface testing into the WAI process to help you truly determine what a blind or text-client user will need/want. Please note that I've used "client" since it's clear that we're dealing with multiple client interfaces -- not just PC-type or voice-based browsers. Regards, Mike At 02:42 PM 4/10/98 +0100, Alan J. Flavell wrote: >On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Daniel Dardailler wrote: > >> I would say: there is the company logo on the left corner (do you want >> me to describe it?), then it says "Welcome to XYZ", etc. >> >> So that later, on, if I refer to "the page with the company logo on >> it", then it would make sense. > >Except that this XYZ's company policy requires the company logo to be >on all of their pages, so that detail doesn't help. Are you going to >bother the listener with this detail on every single one of their >pages? They also demand the pages to be a specific shade of blue, so >that is also an important piece of information (or at least, the XYZ >company design office considers it to be an important piece of >information). And the design office insists that the font has to be >New Baskerville, so that's another important detail that you need to >convey to the listener, it seems. Where shall it end? > >> It's just information, > >As I said, this depends on the specific situation, I don't believe one >can make an absolute rule that takes no account of the context. > >Apart from that, I gather that you put the borderline between content >and decoration in a different place than I do - I don't claim to >be the final arbiter of that, I was only expressing a personal view, >and I'm content to leave the discussion at that. > >> and I don't see why I would not give it away. > >My answer to that would be that concentrating on extraneous visual >detail can be distracting the listener from the real content of the >page. But again, it's all a question of context, and the author's >intentions for the various components of their page. > > >
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