- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:17:03 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Peter Verhoeven <pav@oce.nl>
- cc: <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
Hi Peter, first, this is really the wrong list for talking about WCAG priorities - the best one is either the interest group - w3c-wai-ig@w3.org archived at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig - for general discussion, or the WCAG working group - w3c-wai-gl@w3.org archived at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl - for proposing how to resolve this, which should be primarily focussed on WCAG 2.0 and the conformance proposals made so far for WCAG 2. The issue you raise of how magnification works in browsers and pages today is indeed a problem, and I think one that is newer than WCAG version 1 (which was effectively completed more than 3 years ago). It is important that the working group understand how this arises in current authoring practises - it is not, of course, always the case - and what approaches should be used to make sure it doesn't happen. What is appropriate in this group (which is about evaluation tools and repair tools) is any ideas you can put forward about how to get around this problem - can we make a simple filtering tool that will change something in the page to allow it to scale better, for example. I look forward to your thoughts and further discussion. Cheers Charles On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Peter Verhoeven wrote: Hi, I see a growing tendency making Web Sites level A Conformance. These Web Sites claim they are accessible. All WCAG guidelines that can improve accessibility for people with some vision loss include a large group of elderly people are priority 2 guidelines (contrast between background and text colors, relative table measures instead of fixed). Why is filling the ALT attribute on images more important than relative measurement? I use a screen magnifier and set font size in Internet Explorer to medium. A lot of people with vision loss set it to Largest and always use their own font. The result is, that on a lot of pages text and links hide under other frames or table columns. The only way this can be solved is by using the author's settings, but that makes it impossible to read. In the Netherlands we have a project Drempels Weg, that let Web Sites claim accessible on Level A Conformance. Also the European Union pollicy is Level A Comformance. They speak about 37 million people having problems with accessing the Internet. But solving only priority 1 problems does not solve the problems of those 37 million people in the EU. Most priority 1 problems are blind and screen reader related and only helps 10% of those 37 million. By defining priorities companies and organizations are no willing to make their web site accessible after they are Level A Conformance. BTW: Personaly I believe that most priority 2 problems could be solved by much more flexible web browsers, but there are no such browsers available at this moemnt. Regards Peter Verhoeven Internet : http://www.magnifiers.org (The Screen Magnifiers Homepage) -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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