- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:43:52 -0500 (EST)
- To: WAI ER group <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
This might be of interest - at lesat as a tool... By the way, what is the relationship between this and the activity in teh Education and Outreach group of finding a gallery of accessible sites (currently moribund...) Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia until 6 January 2001 at: W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:08:13 -0500 From: Kathleen Anderson <kathleen.anderson@po.state.ct.us> To: "Gatewood, Joy" <jogat@opic.gov>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: Simplicity of Authoring and Accessibility Tools Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:10:11 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org One of our committee members wrote "Six Steps to Accessibility Certification" at: http://www.cmac.state.ct.us/access/tutorials/certification.htm It describes the process she went through to ensure that her agency site was in compliance with our state policy http://www.cmac.state.ct.us/access/policies/accesspolicy40.html A few other people here have tried it and it seems to work well. Please note, however, one of the tools we use only works with FrontPage 2000, and these steps are performed to ensure compliance with our policy, not Section 508. Kathleen Anderson, Webmaster Office of the State Comptroller 55 Elm Street Hartford, Connecticut 06106 voice: 860.702.3355 fax: 860.702.3634 e-mail: kathleen.anderson@po.state.ct.us URL: http://www.osc.state.ct.us/ URL ACCESS: http://www.cmac.state.ct.us/access/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Gatewood, Joy <jogat@opic.gov> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: RE: Simplicity of Authoring and Accessibility Tools > I use a combination of tools to discover what fixes are needed > to improve accessibility. > > -Linkbot has a web site scan that includes a listing of pages missing > attributes (such as images missing alt tags and pages without titles); > -Dreamweaver also has these options; > -Homesite (I use the 3.2 old version with a built in HTML validator) > lets you run the validator over a web page and see not only the HTML > errors, but also prompts the user to add alt tags to images lacking them; > -Bobby is useful to find problems with your web site/page that you may > have overlooked; and > -JAWS is also useful to beta test your site with, especially to mimic a > blind > person's visit to your site. > > Then one can consult a checklist and go over it manually to fine tune > any errors and/or omissions. > > I'd be interested to hear what others use. > > > Joy Gatewood > Vector Research, Inc. > www.vrionline.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org] > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:19 PM > To: Kynn Bartlett > Cc: Charles F. Munat; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: RE: Simplicity of Authoring and Accessibility Tools > > > I also agree that we need a good tool. For my pusrposes, I use Amaya as a > WYSIWYG tool. It doesn't do everything, but it does the things I need. Which > is my compromise. (In particular, it suffers from being somewhat > inaccessible > to a number of users. On the other hand it has an interface that makes it > fairly easy to create reasonably structured content, although it is not the > same interface as many common editors. I guess I should confess that I > actually don't find those editors intuitive either - I have to learn every > single piece of software I want to use). > > There was a thread a while ago on editors that people like using. I thought > it was very valuable to see what people liked and why, and what the > limitations were. > > cheers > > Charles McCN > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Kynn Bartlett wrote: > > At 1:48 AM -0800 1/19/01, Charles F. Munat wrote: > >As for teaching HTML, I've been teaching for the better part of 20 years > and > >I've yet to meet anyone who was incapable of learning. Different people > may > >need different pedagogical techniques, and may learn at different rates, > but > >anyone who's capable of operating FrontPage is certainly capable of > learning > >enough HTML to code a web page. Whether they want to is another question. > >For those who don't, I hope we get a decent WYSIWYG tool soon. > > We are in definite agreement that we need a good WYSIWYG tool. I > don't think there are any at the moment, sadly, so compromises are > often necessary. > > --Kynn > > > -- > Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 > 136 > W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI > Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia > until 6 January 2001 at: > W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, > France > >
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