- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:33:50 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Leonard R. Kasday" <kasday@acm.org>
- cc: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>, <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
Piling away... We need to know how to say that comments are things that we aggregate, and there is no conflict if there are two different ones, but results (to pick another property) of evaluation against a particular checkpoint do no aggregate, and if there are different ones then there is a conflict. Calling out to the people more wise in the ways of RDF than i... digression: Another part is that stuff which is just comment may be very useful information, but it should be explicit that tis stuff does not fall into the things that the machine might deal with - it is only useful as a way of passing it on to a human. This is intended to make people seperate what is a clear evaluation of a checkpoint (e.g. "chaals asserts that myTool does produce valid magicML") from what is a comment (e.g. "but I don't think that is very cool, since magicML is a bad language anyway", or "the best way to get this to happen in the tool is to go through the wobblywidget, but it is more fun to use the wiibblywodgt if you are relying on a mouse"). cheers Charles On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Leonard R. Kasday wrote: As for how we notate comments... Charles suggested >:len :asserts {:apple :comment "well, it's really sort of a reddish yellow >with a touch of violet haze"} . I agree with what you're getting at, but I think that unfortunately this isn't the way to notate it. I say "unfortunately" because I'm finding it awkward to reduce everything to triples, as RDF requires. The problem is that if we consider these two statements :len: :asserts {:apple :comment "well, it's really sort of reddish yellow" } :chaaz :assert {:apple :comment "to my eye it's more of a tan" } they indicate a disagreement between :len and :chaaz because they describe an apple with a single property called "comment", and :len and :chaaz disagree about the value of that property. It's the same disagreement as saying :len :asserts {:apple :color "red" } :chaaz :assert {:apple :color "yellow"} Now, a human reading these, who knows what the word "comment" means, will treat these two pairs of statements differently. But an RDF interpreter with the general rule that :p :asserts {:x :y1 } :q :asserts {:x :y2 } are contradictions if y1 does not equal y2 will consider the comment constructs to be contradictions. That's why I wrote this as :c :type :comment . :c :author: :len . :c :applies_to :apple . (this can be be abbreviated but these are the underlying meaning) At least, this is how I interpret it. People who think otherwise, please pile on <smile /> Len -- Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. Institute on Disabilities/UAP and Dept. of Electrical Engineering at Temple University (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY) http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday mailto:kasday@acm.org Chair, W3C Web Accessibility Initiative Evaluation and Repair Tools Group http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/IG/ The WAVE web page accessibility evaluation assistant: http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/ -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +1 617 258 5999 Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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