- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:04:22 -0400
- To: "Leonard R. Kasday" <kasday@acm.org>
- Cc: Evaluation & Repair Interest Group <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
aloha! len remarked, quote: On the other hand, Gregory's CAMERA OBSCURA, as one would expect, has appropriate heading, list, and emphasis tags... including real lists, not these paltry table formatted list poseurs. BTW, some items are marked with both emphasis and strong tags... hey, nobody said you can't... unquote the reason for this is that some users have filters that allow for a voice/pitch change when italics or bold text is encountered, and for those things that i felt particularly important, i hedged my bets and used both STRONG and EM originally, when i converted to HTML4 and CSS2, all such styling was done via stylesheets, but since my primary user base doesn't tend to have access to UAs with strong CSS support, i removed the "highly-emphasized" class definition from my local stylesheet (which defined highly-emphasized as "font-weight : bold; font-style: italic;") so as to be as backwardly compatible as possible... moreover, for low vision users, italics often cause legibility problems, unless they are also bolded -- something, i know that an individual could theoretically change using a client-side stylesheet, but building a client-side stylesheet by hand (which is pretty much the only real option for a user who wants a robust and individually tailored client-side stylesheet) is clearly an undue burden on any user who doesn't want (or really need to) become fluent in the syntax and grammar of CSS (and i would warrant that that comprises at least 85% of all users)... i've also had to extensively use the "title" element for links which contain acronyms or abbreviations, as all of the implementations of these elements that i've encountered only expose the content contained in the associated "title" attribute for ACRONYM or ABBR, despite the HTML4 spec explicitly stating that the "title" should only need to be defined once, and then should be reapplied/repropagated/reused/made available programmatically throughout the document by the user agent, unless the UA encounters a different "title" defined for an otherwise indistinguishable acronym or abbreviation which has a different meaning than its homonym... the problem is that when i use a "title" to ensure that there is contextual info available to users when an acronym or ABBR is utilized in a hyperlink, some adaptive technologies (in particular, JFW) read the title defined for the ACRONYM or ABBR, rather than the hyperlink text, necessitating the use of the "title" attribute for the link... other screen readers, such as HAL have problems with other inline markup contained in hyperlink text (such as <em> or a <span lang="xx">), which can be kludged by defining a "title" for the hyperlink as a whole... gregory.
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