- From: Leonard R. Kasday <kasday@acm.org>
- Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:35:50 -0400
- To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Cc: w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
(I've removed html-editor from here while we get a consensus) OK, Ian and I now agree that the spec commentary re <MAP> needs rewording. Do other folks agree on this? Len At 11:36 AM 8/1/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote: >"Leonard R. Kasday" wrote: > > > > Ian, > > > > Would you agree that the spec commentary needs re writing, e.g. change > > > > > This content should include A elements that specify > > > the geometric regions of the image map and the link associated with each > > > region" > > > > to > > > > "If the <MAP> is being used to specify regions of an image map, then the A > > elements should specify the geometric regions and their associated > > links. If the <MAP> is being used only to group the links, then the > > geometric regions may be omitted." > > > > (you suggested something like this, to make it a "little clearer".) > > > > also change the line in the DTD > > > > > name CDATA #REQUIRED -- for reference by usemap -- > > > > to > > > > > name CDATA #REQUIRED -- for reference by usemap and/or > > other purposes -- > > > > If you agree on the need for that rewrite, or something equivalent, then > > we're in agreement. > >Yes, that seems reasonable. > > _ Ian > > > Len > > > > At 12:50 PM 7/31/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote: > > >"Leonard R. Kasday" wrote: > > > > > > > > To the HTML editor, > > > > > > > > During discussions in WAI, people have been saying that in HTML > 4.01 <MAP> > > > > can be used for the sole purpose of grouping links, i.e. without > > > > implementing an image map, e.g. > > > > > > > > <MAP name="foo"> <!-- with no usemap referring to "foo" --> > > > > <A href="home.html"> home </A> > > > > <A href="contact.html> contact </A> > > > > </MAP> > > > > > > > > However, what I read in the HTML 4.01 spec seems to contradict this. > > > > > > > 1. In 13.6.1 [1] . it says that the name attribute is required, and the > > > > comment says it's for use by usemap. But there's no need for usemap if > > > > it's only for grouping. So the reference to usemap seems to contradict > > > > that map can be used solely for grouping. > > > > > >That's not my reading of the spec: > > > > > >"name: This attribute assigns a name to the image map > > > defined by a MAP element." > > > > > >One use of this name value is to be the value of the > > >usemap attribute on another element. But name may serve > > >other purposes (e.g., it could be used in scripting). > > > > > >I don't see a contradiction. "Usemap" is one consumer > > >of MAP/name. > > > > > > > 2. The document also says that > > > > > > > > "Block-level content. This content should include A elements that > specify > > > > the geometric regions of the image map and the link associated with > each > > > > region" > > > > > > > > This also seems to contradict the idea that <MAP> can be used > solely for > > > > grouping, since there's no need to specify geometry for such uses. > > > > > > > > Are these simply editorial glitches in the 4.01 spec that need to be > > > > corrected? > > > > > >Again, I don't see a contradiction. But it might be little clearer: > > >If your A elements are associated with an image, then specify > > >the geometric reasons. Authors aren't required to put in geometries. > > >Most of this section is about image maps, so the language is > > >tailored towards that application of MAP, AREA, and A. > > >But, the following sentence clearly indicates that an image > > >is not required: > > > > > > "The MAP element may be used without an associated image for > > > general navigation mechanisms." > > > > > > - Ian > > > > > > > Or is it a mistaken belief that <MAP> can be used solely for the > > > purpose of > > > > grouping links? > > > > > > > > Thanks much in advance. > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs > > >Tel: +1 831 457-2842 > > >Cell: +1 917 450-8783 > > > > -- > > Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. > > Institute on Disabilities/UAP and Dept. of Electrical Engineering at Temple > > University > > (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY) > > http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday mailto:kasday@acm.org > > > > The WAVE web page accessibility evaluation assistant: > > http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/ > >-- >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs >Tel: +1 831 457-2842 >Cell: +1 917 450-8783 -- Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. Institute on Disabilities/UAP and Dept. of Electrical Engineering at Temple University (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY) http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday mailto:kasday@acm.org The WAVE web page accessibility evaluation assistant: http://www.temple.edu/inst_disabilities/piat/wave/
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