- From: Dick Brown <dickb@microsoft.com>
- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:22:16 -0700
- To: "'w3c-wai-ua@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
- Cc: "'w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
I have an action item from the ER group: >> Action DB take issue to UA - should they be considering ERT techniques in their guidelines? have they already? include in techniques document? I don't have strong feelings that User Agents should employ ERT techniques, but when the issue came up we agreed UA folks might be interested in hearing about it. Gregory has some thoughts below. Dick Brown Program Manager, Web Accessibility Microsoft Corp. http://www.microsoft.com/enable/ -----Original Message----- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita [mailto:unagi69@concentric.net] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:09 AM To: Evaluation & Repair Interest Group Cc: Jon Gunderson; Ian Jacobs Subject: UA as an ERT tool (was Re: minutes from today's meeting) aloha, y'all! in the minutes from this morning's telecon, it was stated: quote: DB you can consider UA's testing tools. in the future they may be doing more. LK the ideal: techniques part of authoring tools and browsers. WL can we suggest something to UA for UA's to perform validity checks for the user? LK i don't think that has been part of the UA philosophy. Action DB take issue to UA - should they be considering ERT techniques in their guidelines? have they already? include in techniques document? unquote the User Agent Working group has consistently taken the stance that User Agents are _not_ expected to fix invalid or inaccessible HTML-that burden has been placed squarely upon the author's shoulders, and the Web Content, Authoring Tool, and ERT documents are all intended to ensure that the content that is exposed to the user via a user agent is (a) valid and (b) accessible that being said, a simple warning, such as that which Lynx issues when it encounters invalid HTML quote Warning! Bad HTML! Use -trace to diagnose unquote would be a beneficial feature for a User Agent, but as far as expecting a user agent to perform repairs or even an analysis of the page, isn't something that the User Agent Guidelines currently address, nor is it something that the WG expects as part of the functionality of a user agent qua user agent... a user agent that also functions as an editing tool, such as Amaya, however, would be required to perform evaluation and repair, but only in editing mode... finally, Lynx can-by using the -trace command line switch-be used as a diagnostic tool-for more info, consult: http://www.slcc.edu/lynx/release2-8-2/lynx2-8-2/lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.h tml gregory. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ACCOUNTABILITY, n. The mother of caution. * Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> Camera Obscura <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html> VICUG NYC <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/> Read 'Em & Speak <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/books/> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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