- From: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:39:16 -0400
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Cc: "Evaluation & Repair Interest Group" <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
Thanks for your helpful comments. I've fixed it up with an appropriate LONGDESC. Please take a look and let me know your comments. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> To: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> Cc: Evaluation & Repair Interest Group <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:05 PM Subject: Re: BLINK repair mechanisms (calling all CSS gurus!) > aloha, chris! > > one small comment upon > http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/tags/blink1.html > > whilst the screen-shot is commendably ALT-texted and LONGDESCed, would it be > possible to employ the following strategy to expose the contents of a quote > real unquote LONGDESC, rather than simply repeat the ALT argument as the > LONGDESC argument as you do on the above-referenced page? > > 1. enclose the graphic in an <A HREF ...> </A> that points to the same URI is > used for the LONGDESC -- for example, blink1_screenshot_description.html > > 2. describe the screenshot in the body of the page > blink1_screenshot_description.html > > 3. use the ALT attribute for the screenshot image to point the user towards the > LONGDESC -- ALT="Description of the screen shot of the dialog used to validate > BLINK element" > > this would allow someone with image rendering turned off (or for whom image > rendering is superfluous) to get an idea of what the screenshot contains... > > the use of a hyperlink to point to the URI of a LONGDESC is an "Until user > agents..." technique for exposing LONGDESCs that i would like to "see" added to > the WCAG techniques document, as it is a strategy that is more palatable to > those who bankroll commercial sites than is the suggested "D-link" technique > > please refer also to my comments on the topic archived at: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1999Aug/0023.html > and note that the examples of this technique that are implemented at Camera > Obscura (and referenced in the above-mentioned post) are encoded using a > "hidden" style declaration because > > a) "display : none" isn't very widely supported, and > b) i was illustrating the use of the technique for a developer who did not want > large screen shots that i re-encoded using this technique to be visually > demarcated with a border and for who objected to my setting the BORDER > attribute in the IMG element to zero, as there are still UAs in common use (he > alleged) that do not respect the BORDER="0" argument when used in an IMG > declaration > > the genesis of using display : none (or the same-background-as-foreground > kludge) to pass information on to assistive technologies came from my > experience encoding HTML forms for commercial sites -- while i wanted to pass > on supplemental semantic information about the number of radio buttons in a > particular field, for example, to speech and refreshable braille users, the > person paying me to do the work didn't want the quote extraneous unquote > information to quote clutter unquote the form he had envisioned, so i used > stylesheets to hide the extra info... > > gregory. > > At 02:33 PM 10/21/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Gregory makes a good point for including the Hx as replacements for > >BLINK/MARQUEE. Another reason for suggesting Hx is that it might get the > >user thinking about using these in the future instead of BLINK/MARQUEE. > > > >Should we also allow the author to change the BLINK/MARQUEE to something > >else? > > > >To repair a BLINK/MARQUEE we could offer the author 3 choices: > >1) remove it > >2) change it to: [EM, STRONG, SPAN, (perhaps Hx)] > >3) change it to: [enter your own tag] > > > >For example, here's how the A-Prompt dialog might look: > >http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/tags/blink1.html > > > >Chris > > ------------------------------------------------ > Writing is easy; all you do is sit staring at a > blank piece of paper until the drops of blood > form on your forehead. -- Gene Fowler > ------------------------------------------------ > Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> > WebMonster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC > <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/> > ------------------------------------------------
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