- From: Leonard R. Kasday <kasday@acm.org>
- Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:12:26 -0400
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>, w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
Following an alert by Gregory, who found a bunch of javascript popups at http://207.179.25.51/ I took a look and found... It turns out at least in netscape that if you click on a popup-enhanced item you get a page with a main menu that matches the popup of the page from which it sprung. In lynx, I get a message to use the text links at the bottom. If I spot check for bus schedules, then indeed I get a page with links that match the aforementioned popups. So assuming that they were careful and did this throughout, the info is all there. Of course I didn't check everything by hand so I can't guarantee. So they actually did a bunch of work to get the info there. We could think of better alternatives, e.g. invisible images or noscripts that say something like "popup for bus schedule" so you get the info right there, more conveniently than actually going to a whole new page. But one could argue that they overall made a functional equivalent. At least enough to e.g. satisfy bobby's question if they did something equivalent. They they probably deserve their bobby. But what this all points out is that it's important to get javascipt accessible. The popups actually have value so we can't ask them to forgo them, and it took a lot of work to duplicate their functions. A while back we did some talking about tools that made javascript accessible. See thread rooted at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/1999Feb/0007.html Silas Brown wound up putting some of this into his tool. The princple was that you could often get useful information by just listing text and links in a heuristically sorted order. You'd omit anything that looks like a color, e.g #012345 . Not as good as true javascript interpretation but better than nothing. And you can do better when templates for very popular applets hit the pages. If nothing else, a webmaster might want to do that for his or her site to avoid duplicating all the functionality by hand. This is getting more important now that there are applets like popups that truly add value, and don't just annoy. So lets give it a think, why don't we. Len ------- Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. Universal Design Engineer, Institute on Disabilities/UAP, and Adjunct Professor, Electrical Engineering Temple University Ritter Hall Annex, Room 423, Philadelphia, PA 19122 kasday@acm.org (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY)
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