- From: Estel·la Oncins Noguer <Estella.Oncins@uab.cat>
- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 06:23:26 +0000
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
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Hello,
One of the issues is that "speech recognition" can be speaker dependent or speaker independent and here is where "voice recognition" comes into play.
An example in accessibility could be the "respeaking technique" which is used to deliver live subtitles and includes both "voice and speech recognition", as professionals train the software with their own voice to improve accuracy.
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De: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
Enviat el: dimarts, 2 de febrer de 2021 23:58
Per a: Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
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Tema: Re: Clarifying speech recognition vs. voice recognition in Style Guide
Hi Katie,
Thanks for the input.
I don't see a need to differentiate non-accessibility tech in this context. Maybe I'm missing something?
afaik, Most of those systems use "speech recognition" to recognize words. Only a few might use "voice recognition" to identify the speaker. And speech output is different.
I've updated the info to make the scope more clear:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style#speech-recognition
Does that help clarify? Or, am I still not getting the point?
Best,
~Shawn
On 02-Feb-21 3:50 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea wrote:
> Yeah, but what about non-accessibility related speech recognition software, such as what is part of SIRI, Cortana, etc. and any voice enabled UI - who use both of the systems that were originally AT - voice recognition and screen reading speech software? How do we differentiate there?
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:37 PM Andrew Arch <andrew@intopia.digital> wrote:
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> Agree completely Shawn, and good for WAI to make the clear distinction.____
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> *From:*Kim Patch <kim@redstartsystems.com <mailto:kim@redstartsystems.com>>
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> Yes, that's the right distinction.
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> I also agree that it's important that we get on the same page about this. I've seen them conflated many times – I think we can help by making sure to be clear about the distinction.
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> On 2/2/2021 12:29 PM, Joshue O Connor wrote:____
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> Hi all,
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> Interesting point and an important distinction.
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> In the wild the two will be conflated IMO, for better or worse. It could be one of those things that the sooner the 'experts' get on the same page about, the better.
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> I'm curious what Kim thinks?
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> I would agree with this distinction.
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> Cc: Kim Patch <kim@redstartsystems.com> <mailto:kim@redstartsystems.com>
> Subject: Clarifying speech recognition vs. voice recognition in Style Guide
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> Hi folks,
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> Here is a draft update to the WAI Style Guide[1]:
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> "speech recognition" is for speech-to-text (SST), and usually what we're talking about for accessibility.
> "voice recognition" is different; it's about identifying the speaker, not what they're saying.
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> (For background, search the Web for "speech recognition voice recognition difference")
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> Please let me know if you disagree or have edit suggestions.
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> Thanks!
> ~Shawn
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> [1] currently at the end of https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_EO_wiki_Style-23other-5Fwords-5Fand-5Fphrases&d=DwICaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=v-L6X-ScaY5UKb-F-_zcuXdbPw2UYK_gaTG8R5d9h7U&m=lT0RkzKPWViwYA0MZWTXqn8uDXjrBrrbQtLkZhkL4MM&s=B9oYblo0mWxzn9VV3FGaJexvPlU9zTrsI41fDM4ORb8&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_EO_wiki_Style-23other-5Fwords-5Fand-5Fphrases&d=DwICaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=v-L6X-ScaY5UKb-F-_zcuXdbPw2UYK_gaTG8R5d9h7U&m=lT0RkzKPWViwYA0MZWTXqn8uDXjrBrrbQtLkZhkL4MM&s=B9oYblo0mWxzn9VV3FGaJexvPlU9zTrsI41fDM4ORb8&e=> ____
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> Tuesday 2 February 2021 14:43____
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> Hi folks,
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> Here is a draft update to the WAI Style Guide[1]:
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> "speech recognition" is for speech-to-text (SST), and usually what we're talking about for accessibility.
> "voice recognition" is different; it's about identifying the speaker, not what they're saying.
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> (For background, search the Web for "speech recognition voice recognition difference")
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> Please let me know if you disagree or have edit suggestions.
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> Thanks!
> ~Shawn
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> [1] currently at the end of https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style#other_words_and_phrases <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style#other_words_and_phrases> ____
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