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Re: Proposed text about applicability of MWBP in general context, for accessibility

From: Yeliz Yesilada <yesilady@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:25:20 +0000
Message-Id: <32E4B131-A458-434F-AC89-44E750EA4FB2@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc: <achuter.technosite@yahoo.com>, "EOWG" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, "MWI BPWG Public" <public-bpwg@w3.org>
To: Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi>

I think "mobile accessibility" (making mobile accessible to disabled  
people) is beyond the coverage of these documents, but of course I  
joined these two groups recently and not sure what the discussions/ 
decisions were.

I believe it would be much better to keep it simple and focused and  
just talk about how making Web pages accessible to disabled people  
(generally), would also help make pages mobile friendly and vice versa.


On 17 Mar 2008, at 16:56, Jo Rabin wrote:

> I agree we need to be clearer about this.
> "to show how MWBPs benefit users with disabilities in the mobile
> context"
> I don't know that these documents are specifically about mobile
> accessibility, my understanding is that they are about how providing a
> BP compliant mobile user experience can improve your (general)
> accessibility and how being (generally) accessible helps you to be
> useful on mobile.
> The mobile BPs don't say they are not general good practice, they just
> say that to be included they have to have a specifically mobile
> importance.
> I don't agree that the examples cited are specifically mobile -
> especially  TESTING for example, you'd hope was of wider applicability
> ...
> Jo
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Alan Chuter
>> Sent: 14 March 2008 18:19
>> To: EOWG; MWI BPWG Public
>> Subject: Proposed text about applicability of MWBP in general  
>> context,
> for
>> accessibility
>> I think that this is the elephant in the room for this document [1]
>> and I'm glad it came up in today's EOWG call. The following is my
>> start at a section of the document to explain it:
>> The MWBP are primarily intended for the mobile context of use. When a
>> web application detects a mobile user agent, it should follow the
>> MWBPs to adapt the [same] content to some degree to suit a mobile
>> device.
>> Many BPs are only applicable to the mobile context. For example,
>> many are also applicable to all contexts (desktop and mobile) and it
>> is to be hoped that developers will not limit them to content for
>> mobile devices [this aspect not considered in MWBP document I think].
>> This document sets out to show how MWBPs benefit users with
>> disabilities in the mobile context but also if they are applied in  
>> the
>> general context, and also how accessibility concepts can benefit
>> mobile users [no confusion about the latter, I think].
>> [1]
> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/ 
> drafts/ED
> -
>> mwbp-wcag-20080314/
>> --
>> Alan Chuter,
>> Senior Web Accessibility Consultant, Technosite (www.technosite.es)
>> Researcher, Inredis Project (www.inredis.es/)
>> Email: achuter@technosite.es
>> Alternative email: achuter.technosite@yahoo.com
>> Blogs: www.blogger.com/profile/09119760634682340619
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