- From: Swan, Henny <Henny.Swan@rnib.org.uk>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:34:40 +0100
- To: <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Hi All, Some thoughts below... 1. Under the second bullet point description of what the Levels mean the text "In general, Level 2 success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level 1." sounds a little negative and may put designers off implementing level 2. The same also applies to the text "They place tighter limits on both presentation and content." in the third bullet. 2. "It is also not necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion. When using such externally-provided techniques to meet WCAG 2.0 requirements, it is important that they be created by individuals or organizations who are knowledgeable about the requirements of WCAG 2.0 and the needs of people with disabilities." This feels quite subjective. Who is the judge of what individuals or organisations are knowledgeable in WCAG 2.0 and PWD's? I understand what the intention is behind it but wonder if it may leave implementation of WCAG 2.0 techniques open to abuse. 3. A couple of us in the office read through it and then tried to summarize it verbally to each other. Both of us struggled. While I felt I understood it I couldn't quite articulate it when I came down to it and my colleague felt she didn't understand it. That said this is the kind of thing I would expect to have to read a couple of times in order to "get it" and by its very nature there is an element complexity that's difficult to get away from but the question is how much. 4. One question I do hear often is why are there Levels as well Single-A, Double-A and Triple-A. People find this confusing. Wonder if the A's could be removed and as the levels are not hierarchical agree with Andrew that they could be renamed. Regards, Henny -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau Sent: 20 April 2007 13:27 To: w3c-wai-eo@w3.org Subject: Comments on WCAG 2.0 Conformance section, Editor's Draft hello all, Here are some comments to the WCAG 2.0 Conformance section, Editor's Draft at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#conformance 1. The priority levels and how to conform to each level is clear for me now. 2. In the explanation of each priority level I don't understand the following: "In general, Level 1 success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation." 3. I also don't understand the following: "The success criteria in Level 2 provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology." What is meant with "direct access to content" and what is meant with "additional support for assistive technology". 4. Like Alan, I believe wrote, I also don't understand the following: "For each success criterion, there is a list of techniques deemed by the Working Group to be sufficient to meet the requirement. For each sufficient technique, there is a test to determine whether the technique has been successfully implemented. If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique (or combination of techniques) are passed, then that success criterion has been met. Passing all tests for all techniques is not necessary. It is also not necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion. When using such externally-provided techniques to meet WCAG 2.0 requirements, it is important that they be created by individuals or organizations who are knowledgeable about the requirements of WCAG 2.0 and the needs of people with disabilities." Regards sylvie -- DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com
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