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including vs. integrating - Re: EOWG: Agenda for 8 December 2006 Teleconference

From: Justin Thorp <juth@loc.gov>
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:57:21 -0500
Message-Id: <s5782b61.047@loc.gov>
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Is the goal to get the instructors to include Web accessibility in their classes or is it to have them integrate Web accessibility into their classes?   I realize you probably have to get one before the other.

At the Rochester Institute of Technology, they teach Web accessibility as an add-on to the big picture of how to make a Web site.
RIT Web Dev. Course Outline - http://www.it.rit.edu/~ell/409/409-062/outline.php

I think making a Web site accessible is more of an all consuming philosophy.  Its a way that you frame the entire process of making a Web site.   My desire to make a web site accessible should influence how i teach HTML, CSS, JavaScript, AJAX...everything.

It has also been my experience with students that when Web accessibility is just taught as one more thing that you have to do, most students don't pay attention to it.  When it is taught as a way of thinking or approaching Web development all together, the clouds part, the light comes down, and the see the whole picture.  It gets more engrained.

In our resources we are preparing, how about not just showing instructors Web accessibility but how it fits into the whole course...how it could be integrated?

Maybe we are just trying to get them to point A and my thing is more about getting them to point B. 

I look forward to the discussion.

Justin Thorp

Justin Thorp
Web Services - Office of Strategic Initiatives
Library of Congress
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>>> Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> 12/06/06 5:40 PM >>>

Dear EOWG Participants:

An agenda and calling logistics for our 8 December 2006 teleconference follow.

Time:    8:30am - 10:30am U.S. Eastern Time. For other time zones see:
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1. Promotional Campaign to Web Development Course Instructors

a. Requirements & changelog (brief):
- Any additional comments on the updated requirements analysis? Does it capture what is most needed and can be delivered yet this year?

b. Announcement for "Including Web Accessibility in Courses" {working title]:
- Brainstorms on the e-mail subject or newsletter blurb headline? at:
- How is the tone, organization, and content of the Announcement?
- Is the length OK, since it is frontloaded and has headings? If not, what can we cut down?

c. "Including Web Accessibility in Courses" {working title] resource listing:
- How is the title of the Web page "Including Web Accessibility in Courses" ?
- How is the presentation and organization of the resource listing?
- Of the current items in the resource listing, what should be added or taken away?

Note: The documents are significantly revised since our last discussion. I might do some additional editing on Thursday.

For offline work:
* Please send to shawn@w3.org additional promotion venues, e.g., e-mail lists, newsletters, blogs, conferences, others. Draft list at:

~ Shawn & Judy


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