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Re: tweaked wording

From: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:24:50 -0400
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To: EOWG <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>

I'm hoping that most of our discussion on this topic tomorrow can be 
focused on clarifying how broad the potential audience is for this 
before/after demo resource -- for instance, thinking of kids, as well as 
adults with very different kinds of backgrounds -- and that in our 
discussion we can use some of the tweaked text as examples of possible 

I'm happy to try to explain what some of those sensitivities might be so 
that our very talented BAD Task Force writers can adjust the content around 
them as needed. I don't think that we need to abandon the goal of having 
content that is humorous and engaging.

Building content for this demo is a little different from what we usually 
do in EOWG: usually we develop content that is directly about Web 
accessibility, and we scrub it pretty carefully. Here the content is 
instead a "draw" to keep the audience engaged in an educational 
demonstration of Web accessibility; but we still may need to look just as 
carefully at the content to ensure that it works well for the very broad 
audiences that use W3C and WAI material.

I look forward to our discussion tomorrow.

- Judy

At 01:35 PM 4/6/2006 +0200, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:

>Hi Helle,
>The phrases in question have only been commented out for now so they are 
>available in the source code view. They all appear on the "News Page" (and 
>the "Home Page" to some extent too).
>  Shadi
>Helle BjarnÝ wrote:
>>Have these "wording problems" been discussed in any EO WG call? I've 
>>tried to follow the links back to both Liam and Shadi's messages, I've 
>>also looked at the "Before" web site. I find it very difficult to get an 
>>overview of the impact of the changes without being able to compare the 
>>site with the old "offending" wording and the new "neutral" wording. 
>>Where can I find the old Before site?
>>I think it will be very difficult not to be able to find one person that 
>>will be offended by these rather ridiculous articles on the web site and 
>>tend to agree with Liam that we then might as well just put lipsum text in...
>>Helle BjarnÝ
>>Visual Impairment Knowledge Centre
>>Rymarksvej 1, 2900 Hellerup, Denmark
>>Phone: +45 39 46 01 01
>>fax: +45 39 61 94 14
>>e-mail hbj@visinfo.dk
>>Direct phone: +45 39 46 01 04
>>Mobile: +45 20 43 43 47
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On 
>>Behalf Of Alan Chuter
>>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:55 AM
>>To: shadi@w3.org
>>Cc: public-wai-eo-badtf@w3.org; EOWG
>>Subject: Re: tweaked wording
>>I agree with Liam's comments [1] referring to your message [2].
>>The first change doesn't seem to detract from the humour too much. But the
>>changes do seem to be going beyond what is reasonable in catering to all
>>possible sensitivities. I don't think that the content actually satirises
>>anyone. I would vote to leave it as is.
>>best regards,
>Shadi Abou-Zahra     Web Accessibility Specialist for Europe | Chair & 
>Staff Contact for the Evaluation and Repair Tools WG | World Wide Web 
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Judy Brewer    +1.617.258.9741    http://www.w3.org/WAI
Director, Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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