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Re: Eval Tools Search - Re: EOWG: Agenda for 14 October 2005 Teleconference

From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:21:19 +0200
Message-ID: <4353CF7F.5080706@w3.org>
To: Helle BjarnÝ <hbj@visinfo.dk>
Cc: w3c-wai-eo@w3.org

Hi Helle,

Helle BjarnÝ wrote:
> First I think Justin has a very good point. But maybe I want to do
> both, finding the tools according to my needs and then compare them.

Point taken, I'll see what can be done.

> I have tried the additional search options and think it is confusing
> that some of the checkboxes has no hits for example if I check
> generating reports in User interface features, or German in Support
> for languages (this is also the case if I select German in the
> language list on the first page)

This is due inconsistencies in the database (also known as bugs :) -every checkbox should correspond to at least one tool that has this feature. Thanks for raising, I will fix this.

> and what if I want to look for a language that is not listed? Then I 
> have select all languages and read through all the tools to find that 
> e.g. there are no tools that support Danish or actually one tool (AIS 
> Toolbar) this is also an example illustrating my whish for a kind of 
> free search option on the page.

The database is incomplete and out of date. So the AIS support for Danish is not available in the database regardless if you use a full-text search or "manual" search for specific features. The information is just not there (yet).

> Is the idea that every time a tool supports a new language then this 
> language will be added to the check box list?

Yes. This information is generated automatically from the information recorded about the tools. So if a tool support a language, that language will be available as a search criteria.

> Then e.g. German should be removed until there is a tool on the list 
> that supports it.

As above, this is a bug in the database that I will fix ASAP. (Actually, I think it may be AIS that has this feature but I'm not sure)

> I have not tested every possibility on the 2 pages.

No?! :) -thanks for spotting these bugs though, that's good testing!

> Finally I think the list in additional search options is very long, I
> have to read through the whole list in order to see if what I want to
> look for is covered and if not my only option is to get the whole
> list and then use the browser's find option or read through all the
> descriptions in the database to see if I can find an answer to my
> question. I think it would help a little if one could go from title
> to title without having to read all the possibilities for each title,
> maybe by using bookmarks or headings?

Good point. This is why we added the "simple search" page but on the last call we also identified we need to do further work on the "extended search" page too. I like your suggestion of headers though it may make the document even longer to scroll. The bookmarks idea is also good. I'll play around with them, thanks for suggesting solutions!


Shadi Abou-Zahra,     Web Accessibility Specialist for Europe 
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