- From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:02:02 -0400
- To: AUWG <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Minutes: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-au-minutes.html Text of Minutes: [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WAI AU 01 Oct 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JulSep/0055.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/10/01-au-irc Attendees Present Jeanne, Jan, Cherie, Jutta, +1.571.765.aaaa, Greg, +1.970.349.aabb, Sueann, Tim_Boland Regrets Chair Jutta Scribe Jan Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]1. Voting on whether to publish the "Implementing ATAG 2.0" (NOTE) Editor's Draft as our required heart-beat publication. 2. [6]3. brief testing approach description (Jan) * [7]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <jeanne> trackbot, start meeting <trackbot> Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference <trackbot> Date: 01 October 2012 <scribe> Scribe: Jan 1. Voting on whether to publish the "Implementing ATAG 2.0" (NOTE) Editor's Draft as our required heart-beat publication. JT: As noted, this will give reviewers a sneak peek of changes we have made to the ATAG2 spec ... Taking vote SN: Agree CE: Fine <jeanne> +1 to publishing Jan: +1 <Greg> Greg says yes TB: Is it aligned with LC? JR: Not exactly, it does include changes we have made based on LC comments TB: Should have note, could be confusing JT: We can add a not explaining that ... The motion is passed, so we will publish...when can we? JS: ASPA...probably next week...def before TPAC ... It was important not to muddle LC status of the rec track doc Resolution: All agreed to publish the Implementing ATAG doc TB: Extended teleconference on Oct 31? JT: That was a proposal JS: Last I remember we didn't agree on something <Greg> The last time we discussed a f to f was questioning the wisdom of holding one during hurricane season in Boca JR: I think that text was from last year ... The main thing we need to do work on are the tests JT: So the main thing we are doing is writing tests for the SCs ... We also need to gather evaluators and reviewers? JS: Yes, that needs to be done. JT: Implementors of ATAG2 and then evalutors/reviewers - people to check those implementations. ... Question is what kind of meeting do we need to put together all of this? JS: I remember from wcag2 testing that there was not a lot of group work...there was a lot of coord and a lot of individual work... ... I could certainly see a meeting to draft and agree on CR exit conditions....but thats it for group work... ... What we really need is a run trhough of testing. SN: Are you looking for people or implementations?\ JT: People SN: So we have SCs with tests then we need implementations? JT: So to clarify, you and I had been talking about gathering some people to do the testing. JS: Right and then the WG needs to stand behind those testers JR: Clarigy? JS: Well, the WG reviews the work that the reviewers do and then they take a vote to say that we think we are done with CR. ... Would take at least 6 weeks after we vote to become a Rec GP: How many implementations do we really need? Is it ok if we have one tool that meets just one SC... etc. JS: Its a tricky answer...largely we decide that...but we have to be credible...we have to show implementations in the real world ... I know JB would like to see examples in various different market niches...blogs, CMSs,, LMSs, etc GP: Our problem is a process issues....need to be able to track whether there is an example for SC...and then show where that is ... Until we get examples for each we cant move forward? JS: Well, we can declare that certain SCs are "at risk". ... Need at least two examples, ... JR had that spreadsheet showing that [8]http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/implementation_report_10june20 11.html [8] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/implementation_report_10june2011.html JR: There is a newer one...with more columns....I can update JT: Great make sure to update the spreadhseet ... And people not working on the testing pls help with that ... Any other issues? OK, then lets move to the 2 agenda items 3. brief testing approach description (Jan) [9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JulSep/00 41.html [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JulSep/0041.html <jeanne> [10]http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2012/ATAG20tests/ATAG2-10April2012 PublicWD-Tests-rev20120813 [10] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2012/ATAG20tests/ATAG2-10April2012PublicWD-Tests-rev20120813 <Greg> I vote for Integration <Greg> Happy Thanksgivign Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ -- _______________________________ Jeanne Spellman W3C Web Accessibility Initiative jeanne@w3.org
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