- From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 13:25:07 -0500
- To: "List (WAI-AUWG)" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
AUWG Teleconference Minutes (Mar 1, 2004) Participants: TB: Tim Boland GP: Greg Pisocky KM: Karen Mardahl JR: Jan Richards (acting Chair for meeting) Regrets: - Roberto Scano - Barry Feigenbaum - Matt May ======================= Action Items: Action: Tim: Look over and suggest steps for Guideline 1 for those who will not have ISO. Action: All – take a look at QA, look the structure used by WCAG, familiarize with ATAG techniques as they are now. TB: Action Item: will at updating the Issues list for the Test Suite. TB: Action Item: work further on the process document ========================= AGENDA 1. Workplan for Techniques. Previously techniques were divided amongst the group. Tim asked if there was an open issues list for techniques. Jan indicated yes there is. TB issues implementation techniques linked to 16071 JR you need to refresh it's under resolve JR new issues, I missed the first ones.checkpoint 4.X still lacking techniques, new editorial editions require group approval Ideas for a process or workplan? JR what if we took the first two week period and then after that take one check point per call every two weeks TB somebody would then take an action for that particular checkpoint JR we have already done that. Perhaps the group as a whole coould take away the techniques. TB okay JR if we followed that the 10 weeks could take us to our next face to face KM I think it's a good idea to say that by the next face to face we have that done. TB 16071 was discussed at the face to face. Just refer to that document and only add where there are additions. JR Refer to the document and provide a short synopsis of what's inside for those people who won't purchase it. TB Paraphrase the 16071 for those who don't purchase it JR for that we are looking 3 to 4 weeks out. Great, for now that is an action on all of us. Take a look at applicable QA things look at the structure useed by WCAG with their techniques gateway and format specific techniques and familiarize yourselves with our core techniques document. Okay the next call will look at those wider organizational issues. Action: Tim: Look over and suggest steps for Guideline 1 for those who will not have ISO. Action: All – take a look at QA, look the structure used by WCAG, familiarize with ATAG techniques as they are now. 2. Workplan for Test Suite JR Let's move along to workplan for test suite. TIm how would you like to proceed on this. TB If you recall our coordination discussion as well as some comments Jutta had there needs to be more thought given to test procedures, test the test, develop the test, debug the test, level of trust. I think we need to set up some sort of a more detailed process of how this would work. Maybe some templatees. What some templates would look like. I know you have done some work on templates. JR Right TB Evaluation of para tools, test cases whatever. I do not know if we are at that point yet. I guess create some templateees on what I call forms. If a developere were developing a tool ---- how would someopne write a test, develop a test and so forth. There is a QA docuemtn but I think it is fairly generic. We'll need some sort of a test suite to get out of CR. Is it your feeling the document is in some sort of stability with the guidelines and check points. JR Yes they are TB THey could be developed in conjunction with the ??????????? (misse dthis) TB I would again want to consult wi8tht the QA process to make sure KM Are all tho9se documents available on the QA website TB They should be. I know the QA process for the Workging groups are kind of buried. (A-Prompt Bobby same issue ) JR what are some of the action items that we can create at this point. One thing i HAVE a big issues list. At this point there are only two. Could you take a look becquase I am sure there are more. Issues for guidelines, techniques and test suite. TB I can certainly generate a look at the take an action to comment on the issues you could at some point, are you linking off the authroing tools website the W3C, I could also take a crack at some templates, I guess some sort of a process docu7ment. JR Okay great. TB You will send us the notes of theis meeting so I know what I signed up for. JR Yes late Jan assigned action item to Tim take on the issues list for the test suite. We all have an action item to look at the QA techniques. TB I could also take a crack to work further on the process document. JR the Peer stuff KM I was going to say, there was product I would like to test. TB You actually have a product that we can run through the process,. Can you send me a description of the product KM It's just Author-It I was curious how compliant there output is and what it is like using it. TB You want to test KM I would just be a person using the tool JR 3rd party tester KM Authorit.com one word TB Informally develop a process any ???????????????? JR for the record it's either Authorit one word or Author dash it. TB Permission to solicit manufacturers for verify the quality of our testing process. TB When do you think we might have a CR JR I think so Matt was saying this would be the last TR. After this we might, what is this CR is the first one of the recommendation. So the last call working draft would be the next one. Perhaps even three months. TB To leave CR the W3C requirement is to do interoperable implementations of JR OF each checkpoint TB RIght You need more than one to complete the test. For CSS for example every standard needs to be supported by two implementations. Two for every checkpoint. You are really referring to every feature in the standard. JR Okay good to know TB that's to get out of CR Tim Boland at NIST. TB: Action Item: will at updating the Issues list for the Test Suite. TB: Action Item: work further on the process document 3. Plan for publishing "Multiplexer" doc to TR? JR We probably need a plan for publishing the ATAG references to WCAG document as a draft note TB THis note then is non normative JR it doesn't have any requirements as such TB ??????????? normative or non normative in some sense JR I suppose it is normative in the sense of what does Priority 1 mean TB if it's normative then it needs to go thouryhg\\\ some sor t of process JR Action item JAn to look at what kind of document that needs to be. Multiplexer = ATAG references to WCAG. 4. Ideas for next F2F? JR Finally moving to ideas for the next FtoF. Denmark in June. This was a private conversation between Jutta, Matt and Karen How do other people feel about possibly haveing the next meeting in Denmark in early mid summer. TB Phone or IRC I could deal JR Greg? GP That should be fine JR Karen KM I can make it JR A few years ago we held it in Seattle hoping Microsoft would show up but they didn't make it. KM (Provided some background etc.) ========================================================================= Karen’s Notes: 1. Workplan for Techniques. Techniques are non-normative. It’s a companion to ATAG. Plan is to have it ready for TR by next F2F. We can chunk the work between now and then. Need to coordinate with the latest ATAG. Might need lots of cleanup in, say, Guideline 1. Have ISO reference there, but we should have more comments for people who may chose not to get the ISO document. Action: Tim: Look over and suggest steps for Guideline 1 for those who will not have ISO. Action: Everyone: Look at QA’s way of doing things. May be ideas and inspiration for fixing up G.1. Also, perhaps follow WCAG’s way of setting up their Techniques Gateway section. Question came up about testing these steps for G. 1. How do we test them? Perhaps combine with Tim’s test suggestions. Have to make sure they are not normative. 2. Workplan for Test Suite Tim came up with a draft test plan previously. Need to work out a testing method. Tim suggests we need a template to progress. There is a generic QA process document that might prove useful. Action: Tim: Look at updating "Issues for Test Suite". 3. Plan for publishing "Multiplexer" doc to TR? Multiplexer needs to go out as a Draft Note soon. Is it normative? Jan: Look at what kind of document that needs to be? Might be important if it must be normative. 4. Ideas for next F2F? Europe? Denmark was mentioned. Tim couldn't but Jan, Greg, and Karen can. Matt's sending Karen lead info to follow up on after Cannes.
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