- From: Liddy Nevile <Liddy.Nevile@motile.net>
- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:10:00 +1100
- To: W3C WAI-AU <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <a05100301b8b2bf7879e4@[144.134.175.168]>
In general - well done Jan. it looks very good. And the inclusion of info wrt education will be very useful, I believe, so glad we have managed that. Liddy ------------------------------------------------- Picky picky --- For example, if an authoring tool for designing on-line courses (courseware) a prefabricated chat facility that the instructor can drag on to their page, this component must comply with all the techniques for accessible output (guidelines 1-6) and accessible user interface (guideline 7). should be: For example, if an authoring tool for designing on-line courses (courseware) HAS a prefabricated chat facility that the instructor can drag on to their page, this component must comply with all the techniques for accessible output (guidelines 1-6) and accessible user interface (guideline 7). word processors that save as markup formats. SHOULD BE word processors that save IN markup formats. ???? Tools that assist authors to create multimedia Web content without allowing access to the raw markup or code of the output format. CONTRADICTS THE DEFINITION ABOUT IT SO IT SHOULD BE: Tools that assist authors to create multimedia Web content without THE AUTHOR HAVING CONTROL OVER the raw markup or code of the output format. FOR CONSISTENCY WITH WHAT FOLLOWS. BTW, I ASSUME THAT ACCESS TO CODE IS IRRELEVANT UNLESS IT COMES WITH CONTROL OVER CODE??? WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF THE DEFINITION Tools for converting content from one format to another. This includes tools for changing the format of images, for conversion of other document formats to XHTML, and tools for importing document formats. WERE A LITTLE MORE EXPLICIT, ESP TO INCLUDE COURSEWARE, LIKE: Tools for converting content from one format to another. This includes tools for changing the format of images, for conversion of other document formats to XHTML, and tools for importing document formats AND DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS AND SERVERS. -------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECKING http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2002/WD-ATAG10-TECHS-20020308/imp1 Enable the author to produce metadata that can be used to construct an accessible version of the output. For example, when producing image formats that do not allows the inclusion of alternative information within them, use Dublin Core metadata to incorporate description, title information, or "foaf" metadata to identify people depicted in images.[T????] @@CMN Enable the author to produce metadata that can be used to construct an accessible version of the output. For example, when producing image formats that do not ALLOW the inclusion of alternative information within them, use Dublin Core metadata to incorporate description, title information, or "foaf" metadata to identify people depicted in images.[T????] @@CMN THE SUGGESTED ADDITION TO ATAG CHECKPOINT 1.2 When generating a natural language translation of text, produce the simplest and clearest possible use of the new language. [T????] @@CMN Proposal@@ SEEMS TO ME TO NEED SOME BETTER WORKING - 'THE SIMPLEST AND CLEAREST POSSIBLE' !!! I THINK THE AIM IS TO SUPPORT, EG PEOPLE WHO NEED LITERAL AS OPPOSED TO METAPHORIC OR POETIC TEXT BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE SPELT OUT MORE CLEARLY, I THINK. ATAG 1.3 Ensure that when the tool automatically generates markup ... I THINK THIS SHOULD BE Ensure that when the tool automatically generates CONTENT OR markup BECAUSE I THINK THE CONTENT OF AN ALT TAG IS NOT THE TAG (AM I WRONG ABOUT THIS????) I THINK WCAG 2.1 (P1) Ensure information provided with color is also provided without. MAKES MORE SENSE AS WCAG 2.1 (P1) Ensure information provided with color is also AVAILABLE without COLOR. (ACTUALLY, WITHOUT COLOUR TOO!!!) ATAG CHECKPOINT 1.4 For tools that allow author's to create their own templates, SHOULD BE For tools that allow AUTHORS to create their own templates, AND Ensure that all templates provided by the tool conforms to the following WCAG10 checkpoints SHOULD BE Ensure that all templates provided by the tool CONFORM to the following WCAG10 checkpoints AND THE TEMPLATES - UNLESS THE NAV BAR IS ON THE LHS, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED IN THEM - ---------------------------------------------------------- CHECKING http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2002/WD-ATAG10-TECHS-20020308/imp2 ATAG 2.1 When creating documents or markup languages, make full use of W3C Recommendations (see WCAG10 11.1). For example, use MathML for mathematical Web content and XHTML, MathML, and DOM scripting to implement a dynamic-interactive spreadsheets. SHOULD BE When creating documents or markup languages, make full use of W3C Recommendations (see WCAG10 11.1). For example, use MathML for mathematical Web content and XHTML, MathML, and DOM scripting to implement [DELETE THE 'A'] dynamic-interactive spreadsheets. tools may be designed in a modular fashion to allow new markup languages and formats to be supported late in the development cycle or even after deployment. MIGHT BE BETTER AS modular DESIGN OF TOOLS PROVIDES FOR new markup languages and formats to be supported late in the development cycle or even after deployment. ATAG 2.3 a tool must somehow inform the author SEEMS UNNECESSARY WHEN a tool must [DELETE SOMEHOW] inform the author MEANS THE SAME I THINK If the tool produces inaccessible markup, whether it is valid or not, see ATAG10 4.1 for checking techniques. IS TRYING TO SAY If the tool produces VALID markup, see ATAG10 4.1 for ACCESSIBILITY checking techniques. --------------------------------------------- CHECKING http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2002/WD-ATAG10-TECHS-20020308/imp3 Provide a preview mode that displays alternative content. Although this can give authors a clear understanding of some problems very easily, it should be made clear that there are many ways in which a page may be presented MIGHT BE BETTER AS Provide a preview mode that displays alternative content. Although this MAY QUICKLY give authors a clear understanding of some problems [DELETE very easily], THEY [DELETE it] should be WARNED [DELETE made clear that] there are many OTHER UNPREDICTABLE ways in which a page may be presented WHEN DEALING WITH THIS Short Text Labels (for alternate text, titles, etc.): These types of alternative equivalents require only short text strings from the author, so the prompts for them may be best located as text boxes within property dialogs, etc. An important consideration is that the function of the object (decorative, button, spacer, etc.) will be important to the instructions given to the author on what to write. The object function may be prompted for or discovered by automated heuristics. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE TWO BITS - ONE CHOSEN FROM A CONTROLLED VOCAB THAT SAYS WHAT THE FUNCTION OF THE OBJECT IS, AND ANOTHER THAT IS THE TEXT TO BE TYPED IN??? MAYBE THIS IS A MATTER FOR WCAG??? BUT IF THE FUNCTION WERE DECLARED, WOULDN'T THE TEXT BIT BE MORE EASILY TESTED? AND SOMETIMES MORE EASILY GENERATED AUTOMATICALLY? SO A TECHNIQUE IS TO HAVE A PULL-DOWN LIST OF THE FUNCTIONAL VOCAB. Transcripts of Audio or Video: The author should be prompted for the location of a preexisting transcript of the audio or video. Failing this, one will have to be created. Although transcript writing is an involved process for long media files, tools might include simple transcription writing suites (with built-in media players) for short media files. MIGHT BE BETTER AS Transcripts of Audio or Video: The author should be prompted for the location of a preexisting transcript of the audio or video. Failing this, one will have to be created. Although transcript writing is A COMPLEX process for long media files, tools might include simple transcription writing suites (with built-in media players) for short media files. AND The creation of captions can be a time consuming process, however, public domain tools do exist for relatively simply creating captions SHOULD BE The creation of captions can be time consuming BUT public domain tools do exist for relatively simply captions CREATION. AND The creation of signed translation video files are obviously beyond the average author, however, new technologies may soon make it possible for automated sign language animation to be generated from text. MIGHT BE BETTER AS The creation of signed translation video files IS ASSUMED TO BE beyond the average author BUT technologies ARE BEING DEVELOPED for automated sign language animation to be generated from text. WCAG 1.2 (P1) Provide redundant text links for server-side image map areas. * Image map labels: Image maps require multiple text labels (one fore each area) as well as redundant text links SHOULD BE WCAG 1.2 (P1) Provide redundant text links for server-side image map areas. * Image map labels: Image maps require multiple text labels (one FOR each area) as well as redundant text links Audio Descriptions of Video: The author should be prompted for the location of a described version of the video. The recording of traditional video descriptions (that are encoded into the video file where silent periods occur in the original soundtrack) is an involved process that the average author is probably not equipped to undertake. However, technologies are becoming available that allow the audio description files to be stored as an externally and played, at the user's option, while the original video is automatically paused. MIGHT BE BETTER AS Audio Descriptions of Video: The author should be prompted for the location of a described version of the video. The traditional recording of video descriptions (encoded into the video file where silent periods occur in the original soundtrack) is a COMPLEX process, MAY BE BEYOND the average author. However, technologies are becoming available that allow audio description files to be stored externally and played, at the user's option, while the original video is automatically paused. DOES AUTOMATICALLY PAUSED WORK HERE? SHOULD IT BE ACCOMPANIED BY SOMETHING ABOUT MAKING THE VIDEO USER CONTROLLED? RE WCAG 5.3 Alternative Information: The author should be prompted for the location of the alternative content. If this fails, the tool might start the author off by stripping the problematic element (table, dynamic content, etc.) from a copy of the content. IS NOT VERY CLEAR. DOES IT MEAN SOMETHING LIKE Alternative Information: The author should be prompted for the location of the alternative content. If THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE CONTENT, THE TOOL MIGHT SUPPORT THE AUTHOR BY PROVIDING A COPY OF THE CONTENT WITH THE PROBLEMATIC FORMATTING REMOVED. RE WCAG 14.2 Since prompting the author about every instance of text is untenable, MIGHT BE BETTER AS Since prompting the author about every instance of text is INTOLERABLE, ATAG 3.2 Help the author create structured content and separate information from its presentation as required by the following WCAG10 checkpoints. (Note: An asterix (*) denotes those WCAG checkpoints that involve the inclusion of equivalent alternative information, which although related to the separation of information from presentation, is already covered by ATAG 3.1) [T0119]: SHOULD PROBABLY BE Help the author create structured content and separate information from its presentation as required by the following WCAG10 checkpoints. (Note: An asterix (*) denotes those WCAG checkpoints that involve the inclusion of equivalent alternative information which, [MOVE THE COMMA] although related to the separation of information from presentation, is already covered by ATAG 3.1) [T0119]: RE WCAG 9.1 geographic map the input might be used to lookup latitude and longitude of a point and then give information about that point. [T0154] (Suggested) SHOULD BE geographic map the input might be used to LOOK UP latitude and longitude of a point and then give information about that point. [T0154] (Suggested) --------------------------------
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