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Re: Can we be more concrete?

From: W. Eliot Kimber <eliot@isogen.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 22:31:27 -0900
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To: Michael Sperberg-McQueen <U35395@UICVM.UIC.EDU>, W3C SGML Working Group <w3c-sgml-wg@www10.w3.org>
At 07:13 PM 1/7/97 CST, Michael Sperberg-McQueen wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:24:04 -0900 Eliot Kimber said:
>>At 03:32 PM 12/30/96 -0800, Terry Allen wrote:
>>> ...
>>>So, what indicates the semantics of the link to the query?  It isn't
>>>the HTTP method.   Is it the semantics of <crossref>?
>>In the HyTime model, it's the semantics of addresses in general: that
>>any reference to a location address is a reference to whatever the
>>location address addresses (recursed until you either get only
>>non-location addresses, reach the "reflevel" limit, or have a
>>circular reference).  This behavior of addresses is independent of
>>linking (in other words, the same address resolution behavior would
>>result from an ID reference that was not a "link" as we're defining
>>it here).
>This sounds suspiciously as if it would be impossible to point at
>a link (or perhaps I mean to point at *an address*) in order to talk
>about it, without slipping past it and landing at what it's pointing

There is a "use/mention" problem inherent in indirect addressing.  One way
around it in HyTime is to use the "reflevel" attribute to limit the depth
of recursion--once you've passed it, you just get the elements. At one
point we discussed adding a "locloc" (location address location) element
just for this purpose, but decided it wasn't necessary.


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