- From: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: 10 Jul 2003 12:21:07 +0100
- To: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
- Cc: rdf core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>, w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org
Hi Martin, Thanks for clarifying your view of the process issues here. I'm in a bit of a bind. I don't accept some of the points you make, but I don't see much value in a procedural wrangle. Brian On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 00:35, Martin Duerst wrote: [...] > > Procedural > ---------- > > - It is our understanding that RDF Core was chartered with > clarifying the RDF M&S spec, not changing it. > Already by > separating plain literals and XML literals, and much more > by removing language information from XML literals, the > new spec is a clear change from M&S, rather than a > reinterpretation. > > - We agreed in Cannes that the ambiguity in M&S that RDF applications > may or may not consider language information would be resolved > to that the RDF graph would provide the language information. > > - Later, RDF Core asked us about the problem of integrating > arbitrary pieces of XML without language information into > an RDF/XML document. The same problem was brought up by > XML Signature (or was it encryption) and SOAP. The I18N > WG recognized this problem, checked with the experts on > language tagging standards, and recommended to XML Core > to issue an erratum to define xml:lang="" for this case, > which they did. > > - Later, RDF Core asked about the applicability of language > information to datatypes such as (XML Schema) integer. > We told them that these were designed as language- and > locale-independent datatypes, and so it would be appropriate > to specify that they did not carry language information. > > - Although this was rather implicit (in the sense of a common > understanding that didn't have to be made explicit), I think > neither side ever assumed that removing language information > from XML Schema simple datatypes would affect plain literals > or XML literals. > > - After last call, RDF Core asked us whether we would be okay > with removing language information from XML literals. It was > nice for them to ask, but it also clearly indicates that they > understood it to break our previous agreement. We had a look > at it and decided that, for the reasons explained above, it > would not be okay. It also helped us to understand that the > RDF M&S design for literals had been changed rather substantially, > with undesired consequences for internationalization, and that > ideally, more than just putting language information back on > XML literals was needed, but that if really necessary, we > could live with only that change back (to the last call state).
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