- From: Aaron Swartz <me@aaronsw.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:43:09 -0500
- To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
On Wednesday, June 20, 2001, at 06:13 PM, pat hayes wrote: >> > The fact that something can have a URI (and anything can, >> right?) doesn't >> > mean that it's got one. >> >> Suppose I say that it does. There's no argument to >> refute me, is there? > Well, I can refute you to my own satisfaction just by looking > around my office at the books on the shelves. Really? Looking at all the books on my shelves I notice that they all have URIs. In fact, most of them are kind enough to print it on the back of the book -- why here's one now: urn:isbn:059600110X Oh, you mean my copy? Why it's at: http://aaronsw.com/books/id?urn:isbn:059600110X > Whereas I *know* that some email messsages don't have a URI. No you don't. You can't show me anything that doesn't have a URI. >> Alas, it's true that a lot of folks think of the Web >> as HTTP+HTML. They speak of "the Web or email or ftp" >> when they should say "HTTP or email or ftp, all of which >> are part of the Web." The telephone system is also >> part of The Web, as is IRC etc. > The web uses the phone system, but it does not include it. I do > actually speak on the phone from time to time. And thus you're speaking over the Web, no? The Web is the set of things that have a URI. Your telephone has one, see the tel: scheme. >> But meanwhile, the 10 year history of the Web >> is evidence that this axiom is useful; can we agree that >> for the purposes of the RDF spec, every document is in the Web? > No, we cannot. I refuse to accept as an axiom something that I > know to be false and, moreover, I know to be false because I > can make it false in a few seconds by writing something with a > pen on a piece of paper. How can you show that it is false? You simply cannot show me something that does not have a URI. -- [ "Aaron Swartz" ; <mailto:me@aaronsw.com> ; <http://www.aaronsw.com/> ]
Received on Wednesday, 20 June 2001 23:43:13 UTC