- From: <jamsden@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 09:10:42 -0400
- To: "Geoffrey M. Clemm" <geoffrey.clemm@rational.com>
- cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
See <jra> tags below. I believe a "lock-null" resource is best treated as a convenient fiction maintained in order to make it easy to query for the existence of locks. In particular, according to section 7.4 of 2518, a lock null resource acts the same as a null resource for all methods except for PROPFIND and UNLOCK. A DELETE on a lock null resource MUST fail, a MOVE on a lock null resource MUST fail, a COPY on a lock null resource MUST fail, etc. The reason I am particularly concerned that the creation of a lock NOT be treated as a modification of the state of the parent collection is to ensure that effect of creating a lock-null resource is treated consistently in the versioning and the locking protocols. <jra> The lock-null resource appears as a member of its parent collection, so it must modify its state. Otherwise, how would one see the results of the LOCK request? </jra> In the versioning protocol, the creation of a lock-null resource cannot be a modification to the state of the collection containing it, because if the collection were versioned, this would then require a new revision of that collection in order to hold the "new resource". But then this lock-null resource could never be removed from this collection revision, because revisions are immutable. <jra> The versioned collection only needs to have a working revision. The lock-null resource may be deleted (with unlock) or converted to a real resource (with put) before the working revision of the versioned collection is checked back in. </jra> On the other hand, if the addition of a lock is not considered a modification to the state of a collection, but rather the modification occurs at the first PUT, then all is well ... no "immutable" locks end up being captured. In this model, a lock is not a modification to the state of a resource (either the resource itself, or the collection containing the lock), but rather "metadata" that controls interactions with the state of the resource. In versioning, this is also how "labels" are handled, i.e. as metadata on a resource that does not modify the state of the resource. I'd *very* much like the versioning protocol and the locking protocol to be consistent as to whether the creation of a lock-null resource modifies the state of the collection containing them. Since I don't see that the versioning protocol has a choice in this regard, I'd like to see the locking protocol handle it the same way, unless there is some serious problem that arises from doing so. So I guess what I'd like to hear is why it is important for the addition of a lock-null resource to be treated as a modification to the state of the collection containing it. <jra> Just so you can see the results of the LOCK operation and have a URL to unlock or put. </jra>
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