- From: Geoffrey M. Clemm <gclemm@tantalum.atria.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:59:28 -0400
- To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
From: Edgar Schwarz <Edgar.Schwarz@de.bosch.com> > <gmc/> But I have seen various arguments in the past that a LOCK should > also protect the URL to resource mapping. <es/> For my part I was just concerned that the locker should be able to find his locked resource after a MOVE. Yes, I believe that is the essential functionality to be provided, in addition to the lock on the state of the resource. <gmc/> to resource mapping, I'd propose that a locked resource be allowed to MOVE (this is just a change to the state of the parent collection, not to the state of the resource being moved), but that an attempt to access the MOVE'd resource with that lock just returns a 302 indicating where it has MOVE'd to. <es/> This would give me what I wanted. I even could imagine that it is enough that only a access with the lock token MUST get the new location. For all others it's just gone, like other resources which are moved. So a server could just remember lock tokens together with old and new URLs and keep this data until it is accessed by the locker or the lock expires. <gmc/> Ah yes, *much* better than the 302's, and provides better compatibility with clients written against the existing locking protocol. Great idea, Edgar! > <gmc/> So there are really multiple threads here: > - Should locking be on a resource or also/instead on a URL-to-resource > mapping? (we know what it is now, but what *should* it be) > * I vote "on a resource". > - Does a DELETE delete all bindings to a resource, or just the one > specified in the request-URL. > * I vote "just the one named by the request-URL". > - Should a DELETE delete a LOCK? > * I vote, "no". A DELETE modifies the state of the collection containing > the binding, not that of the resource. In particular, all other > mappings to that resource will continue to exist and display the > LOCK'ed semantics. If you want to prevent a DELETE, you put the > LOCK on the collection whose state is being modified. <es/> Agreement on all points. The last couple of days I thought that already too much energy was spent with this topic. This proposal seems to be as simple as possible, but not simpler. <gmc/> I've been agonizing for months over trying to make the existing locking protocol work unmodified in the presence of multiple bindings and versioning. There are massive numbers of edge cases and things that just plain don't work. If you just say that a lock is on a resource, and then use Edgar's proposal that a lock token combined with the original URL guarantee access to that resource, then multiple bindings and versioning semantics interacts can be combined with locking in a manageable fashion. I'll make a pass through the current version of 2518 to identify the sections that would need to be modified, and will run this against Judy's list of use cases for locking in the presence of multiple bindings, to see how the details play out. Cheers, Geoff
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