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Re: Review of the Reformatted Recommendations (was Re: New W3C Web Site Launched)

From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:36:11 +0100
Message-Id: <200910151536.n9FFaBml004306@edinburgh.nag.co.uk>
To: robin@robineko.com
Cc: chrisfer@us.ibm.com, spec-prod@w3.org, chairs@w3.org, ij@w3.org, w3c-ac-members@w3.org

>    - Should this experimentation be performed on live Recommendations  
> at their canonical URLs?

No. especially for documents like MathML which are at last call, we
really can't wait for these things to be fixed, we need TR/MathML2 to
redirect to a valid, readable document, now, today.

>    - Should old documents be updated at all? If yes, should the WGs in  
> charge handle them?

Some css restyling would (perhaps) be acceptable but editing the actual
files (even if those edits did not make the documents invalid) should
not be done. It completely breaks the spirit of the stability
requirements for TR space.

>    - Do TRs need to have the site navigation included or are they  
> standalone?

The top bar navigation isn't so bad as it is clearly distinct but the
sidebar and bottom bar  should not be added. It gratuitously mixes non
normative text in with the text of the recommendation with very little
visual clues that this is being done.

>    - Is it okay to have the logos of commercial companies on TRs?

>    - Should the SotD and paraphernalia be pushed to the end?

One could perhaps make a case for changing the position going forward
but the existing texts were written assuming a particular position,
making forward not backward references to the document, they can not in
general be moved.

> And of course any other concern that editors may bring up.

The documents should either be valid html served as text/html or valid
xhtml served as application/xhtml+xml. To sloppily produce xhtml served
as text/html means you are relying on the error correction on the
browser to correctly make something out of invalid html syntax, with the
result you see in most of the curent XML related recs where <a/> syntax,
parsed as text/html causes virtually the entire document to be styled as
a link with a mouse over styling that underlines random runs of text.

As a first, immediate, cause of action, all the short undatated URL
should change to redirect to the original versions until the new
versions are usable.


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