- From: Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson <stefan_sigmundsson@live.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:26:29 +0000
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W3C: I’ve been trying to find the suitable way to contact the W3C for some time now but I have decided to use this generic e-mail address for my purpose – the contact page is confusing. I’m working on an article on the English Wikipedia called "Comparison of layout engines (XHTML 1.1)". The purpose of the article is to demonstrate how well layout engines support XHTML 1.1 [1.1]. In order to do so the article has to list all 1.1 elements [elem] and attributes [attri], amongst other things. In order to make the article easy to understand and efficient, the elems and attris should be categorised according to what modules [mod] they belong to (and perhaps some other subcategories if they formally exist). 1.1, as opposed to XHTML 1.0 [1.0], has gone through the so-called modularization and thus the elems and attris are categorised into various mods. According to the 1.1 recommendation [rec], only two things changed since the 1.0 rec, aside from the modularization. I will refer to the XHTML™ Modularization 1.1 - Second Edition as XHTML Mod and to the XHTML™ 1.1 - Module-based XHTML - Second Edition as Mod-based XHTML in the following text: My main problem is trying to understand, from the XHTML Mod rec and the Mod-based XHTML rec, how to categorise elems and attris into mods and how many mods 1.1 actually has in total. As of 2011-05-13, the introduction of the article reads: The following tables compare XHTML 1.1 compatibility and support for a number of layout engines. XHTML 1.1 which is mainly a modularization of XHTML 1.0, is composed of 20 element modules (7 of which are submodules), including the additional Ruby Annotation Module, and two attribute modules (Server-side Image Map Module and Intrinsic Events Module). I am aware that this is probably not accurate information. So my question is, how many mods does 1.1 have and what are they? I will begin by explaining how I came to the conclusion that 1.1 had 22 mods, 20 elem mods (of which 7 are submodules [submod]) and 2 attri mods. In The XHTML 1.1 Document Type of Mod-based XHTML, 21 mods are mentioned. One (Style Attribute Module) is marked deprecated so I thought it was safe to leave that one out. However, I didn’t use that list of mods because, as the page says, the list is for information purposes, but the definitions in "XHTML Modularization" should be considered definitive. When I looked at the XHTML Abstract Modules of XHTML Mod, things became even more confusing because the rec doesn’t take into consideration what version of XHTML is being used. Here I came up with the idea of using the mods defined in Mod-based XHTML but categorising them according to XHTML Mod. Mod-based XHTML: Structure Module Text Module Hypertext Module List Module Object Module Presentation Module Edit Module Bidirectional Text Module Forms Module Tables Module Image Module Client-side Image Map Module Server-side Image Map Module Intrinsic Events Module Metainformation Module Scripting Module Style Sheet Module Style Attribute Module (deprecated, not included) Link Module Base Module Ruby Annotation Module How I counted the mods: 1. Core Modules (only contains other mods) 2. Structure Module (submods 1) 3. Text Module (submods 2) 4. Hypertext Module (submods 3) 5. List Module (submods 4) 6. Text Extension Modules (only contains other mods) 7. Presentation Module (submods 5) 8. Edit Module (submods 6) 9. Bi-directional Text Module (submods 7) 10. Forms Modules 11. Table Modules 12. Image Module 13. Client-side Image Map Module 14. Object Module 15. Metainformation Module 16. Scripting Module 17. Style Sheet Module 18. Link Module 19. Base Module 20. Ruby Annotation Module 21. Server-side Image Map Module 22. Intrinsic Events Module It should be easy to see how I got 22 mods in total, 20 elem mods (of which 7 are submods) and 2 attri mods, you can see this list in the article itself. I do realise that some of the mods there have parent mods, for example the Table Module has the Table Modules parent and the Basic Tables Module sibling. However, I left out all basic sibling mods because those are subsets and 1.1 supports the real thing and in the Tables Modules example, I didn’t count and include the parent of Tables Module because the Basics Table Module wasn’t included either and so it would be strange to include parent mods with only one submod. What should the hierarchy be, what mods are in and what mods are out? I also need help categorising the attris. In the article, you can see in the Attributes section that I’d begun categorising the attris as either belonging to the two attri mods (Server-side Image Map Module and Intrinsic Events Module) or as belonging to another type of categories that I’ve notice in some W3C-documents, so far I had Core, I18N and Events. Don’t all attris belong to mods in 1.1? If not, what are the formally defined "collections" of attris? Look at the Events section and compare it with the Intrinsic Events Module section. Why do some event attris belong to that mod and not others? It is vital that the W3C contributes to relevant articles on Wikipedia since it is a free-content, non-profit organisation, and one of the most popular websites on the internet (usually within the top ten of most countries). I’m sure more people go to Wikipedia to find information about the W3C and its standards than to w3.org (perhaps because the content there is not easy to read nor, seemingly, meant for beginners). I don’t expect anybody at the W3C to actually edit Wikipedia but if I get a thorough reply, I can do it myself. Please help me improve Wikipedia and the Web. Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(XHTML_1.1) (main article) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(Document_Object_Model) (for comparison) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(ECMAScript) (for comparision) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(Cascading_Style_Sheets) (for comparision) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(XML) (for comparision) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(HTML) (for comparision) Quick links: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/ (XHTML 2.0) http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/ (XHTML 1.1) http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/ (XHTML Modularization) http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ (XHTML 1.0) http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/ (HTML 4.01) Thanks, Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson
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