Re: w3.org site-wide markup review?

I'll gladly be a friend

On 2 February 2011 23:56, Denis Boudreau <dboudreau@accessibiliteweb.com>wrote:

> Morning! I would gladly contribute to this initiative as well. I think it's
> a great idea.
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> /Denis
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> On 2011-02-02, at 04:04, "John Foliot" <jfoliot@stanford.edu> wrote:
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> So ya’ know Ian, this idea has some legs IMHO. Surely we have more friends
> than pages?  I add my +1 to this too.
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> *From:* w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:07 PM
> *To:* chris@e-beer.net.au; 'Danny Ayers'
> *Cc:* 'Ian Jacobs'; 'Jonathan Chetwynd'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org;
> site-comments@w3.org; 'Tim Berners-Lee'
> *Subject:* RE: w3.org site-wide markup review?
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> +1 for the “adopt a page” idea.
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> Best regards,
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> Emmanuelle
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> Directora de la Fundación Sidar
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> *De:* w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] *En
> nombre de *Chris Beer
> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 02 de febrero de 2011 0:14
> *Para:* Danny Ayers
> *CC:* Ian Jacobs; Jonathan Chetwynd; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org;
> site-comments@w3.org; Tim Berners-Lee
> *Asunto:* Re: w3.org site-wide markup review?
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> All
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> Why not start an "adopt a page" concept - members orgs and regular users
> could adopt a page or a number of pages and check validity and currency.
> Source code changes could simply be sent in and the page re-uploaded with
> the new code.
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> Just a thought. :)
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> Chris
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> On 2/2/2011 6:45 AM, Danny Ayers wrote:
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> On 1 February 2011 18:55, Ian Jacobs < <ij@w3.org>ij@w3.org> wrote:
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> w3.org has a very large number of pages. I don't expect to fix all of them.
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> I focus on the ones that are brought to my attention. We use some tools
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> internally (and have used more historically, but less so now) to check for
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> validity, for instance.
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> But for heaven's sake (despite Jonathan's comment), it isn't 1998!
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> The fact that there are a large number of pages is exactly the reason
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> relying on one person at the end of an email address to fix them is a
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> bad idea.
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> Tools do become less useful over time and fall into disuse if they're
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> not actively maintained. But as strategies go, doing without tools
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> isn't very sound.
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> I agree that a page might be broken and not reported. And tools help us
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> catch some of those.
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> I bet the Amaya page wasn't the first reported with problems re. fixed
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> px value. Wouldn't it be a wee bit more efficient if rather than
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> reports like these triggering the correction of that single page, they
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> triggered the addition of an extra check to a tool with site-wide
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> coverage..?
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> For an
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> organisation who's raison d'etre is to improve the Web, their Web
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> presence should be as good as possible: "good enough" *isn't*. It goes
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> down to credibility.
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> I agree that we have to maintain high standards on our site. Credibility
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> will be derived from a number of factors. We don't have budget for all of
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> them, alas.
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> Regarding budget, prevention of problems usually costs less than
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> repair. A stitch in time etc, This is especially true when it comes to
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> credibility, which is much easier to lose than regain. Are the W3C's
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> offices protected by sprinklers and fire insurance or a man with a
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> bucket?
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> I'd also love to know what factors impact credibility more than the
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> public (and industry) face of the organisation. What you might call
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> the World Wide Web aspect of the W3C.
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> Cheers,
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> Danny.
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