- From: Ilkka Huotari <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi>
- Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:26:15 +0300
- To: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org>
- Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>, <site-comments@w3.org>
Ok, I see that this URL http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/IPR-FAQ-20000620#format talks actually about the same thing - if the content is changed then the republishing cannot be granted, but if the content stays the same, then publishing is generally granted. I will change the stylesheet today, and see that everything complies to the license. So, I guess we can consider this conversation as the notification of those reformatted specs - I assume the knowledge of them ahs spread wide enough and there wouldn't be any badwill from the publishing - as log as I change the specs to comply the standards. Sorry if this was confusing, but it wasn't clear to alt.html folks either - there were opinions that a permission should be asked if reformatted specs are distributed, so I decided to do so. Ilkka ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org> To: "Ilkka Huotari" <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi> Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>; <site-comments@w3.org> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: W3C specs reformatted > > > Ilkka Huotari wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the answer. > > > > Could they be published if I change the stylesheets to comply to your > > standards? > > > There isn't any major reason to why I have changed the stylesheets - I > > didn't know about those rules originally. So I could very easily change the > > stylesheets to the same what you have (they could be exactly the same, I > > think). > > Ilkka, it may help for you to read the document license. Everything I am > telling you comes from there: > > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231 > > > "Permission to copy, and distribute the contents of this document, or > the W3C document from which this statement is linked, in any medium for > any purpose and without fee or royalty is hereby granted, provided that > you include the following on ALL copies of the document, or portions > thereof, that you use: > > 1. A link or URL to the original W3C document. > 2. The pre-existing copyright notice of the original author, or if > it doesn't exist, a notice (hypertext is preferred, but a textual > representation is permitted) of the form: "Copyright © > [$date-of-document] World Wide Web Consortium, (Massachusetts Institute > of Technology, European Research Consortium for Informatics and > Mathematics, Keio University). All Rights Reserved. > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231" > 3. If it exists, the STATUS of the W3C document. > > When space permits, inclusion of the full text of this NOTICE should be > provided. We request that authorship attribution be provided in any > software, documents, or other items or products that you create pursuant > to the implementation of the contents of this document, or any portion > thereof." > > This is the policy for just making a copy with no modifications. > > So, if you were reposting the documents as is on your site, these are > the rules you have to follow. > > > So... if this could help it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Ilkka > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janet Daly" <janet@w3.org> > > To: "Ilkka Huotari" <ihuotari@cc.hut.fi> > > Cc: <site-policy@w3.org>; <site-comments@w3.org> > > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:18 PM > > Subject: Re: W3C specs reformatted > > > > > > > >>Dear Ilkka, > >> > >>Thank you for your request. Susan Lesch of the W3C Communications team > >>provided an earlier response, on the site-comments mailing list: > >> > >>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/site-comments/2004May/0051.html > >> > >>But what remains is whether what you are proposing to do complies with > >>the Document License at W3C: > >> > >>http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231 > >> > >>No right to create modifications or derivatives of W3C documents is > >>granted pursuant to this license. So, changing the stylesheets and > >>republishing them is not permitted. > >> > >>I appreciate your caution and request, but inform you that it is not > >>possible for these to be published. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>Janet > >> > >>-- > >> > >> > >>World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > >> > >>Janet Daly, Head of Communications > >>MIT/CSAIL, Building 32-G518 > >>32 Vassar Street > >>Cambridge, MA 02139 > >> > >>voice: 617.253.5884 > >>fax: 617.258.5999 > >>http://www.w3.org/ > >>janet@w3.org > >> > >> > >> > >>Ilkka Huotari wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi, > >>> > >>>This email concerns the reformatted W3C specs that I made. Only this > > > > late I > > > >>>am asking you for the permission to do/distribute those versions: > >>> > >>>You may (or may not) have seen that I made some reformatted specs of > > > > HTML > > > >>>4.01, CSS 1, 2, 2.1 specs. The url was http://www.visiomode.com/docs/ > > > > and > > > >>>there were CHMs and web versions. > >>> > >>>I just found out that I didn't follow the proper procedure to publish > > > > these > > > >>>and I want to say that I'm sorry and express my apologies. I did read > > > > the > > > >>>document use statement which was linked from HTML 4.01 mainpage, but > > > > maybe I > > > >>>should have been more careful. Your statement > >>>(http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405) grants > > > > the > > > >>>use and distribution but maybe I was crossing the line with the > > > > reformatted > > > >>>versions, although I didn't change the content/HTML code. > >>> > >>>I made CHMs and web versions, so maybe my versions were actually > > > > derivatives > > > >>>and not only distribution of your material. > >>> > >>>So, I want to now ask for your permission to do the conversion (well, > > > > it's > > > >>>already done), and the permission of distribution. If you haven't seen > > > > these > > > >>>reformatted specs, I can email them/put them somewhere for you to view. > >>> > >>>There is a discussion at alt.html wth the subject line "W3C specs > >>>reformatted." > >>> > >>>So, sorry again for my hasty actions... I tried to follow the right > >>>procedure, but apparently I made an error. > >>> > >>>Ilkka Huotari > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > > Janet Daly, Head of Communications > MIT/CSAIL, Building 32-G518 > 32 Vassar Street > Cambridge, MA 02139 > > voice: 617.253.5884 > fax: 617.258.5999 > http://www.w3.org/ > janet@w3.org > >
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