- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 10:19:28 -0400
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Cc: "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com" <ontolog-forum@googlegroups.com>
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Hi Sebastian, On 10/8/25 7:35 PM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote: > A "generic client" sounds for me as a "generic client" for any kind of > database. It lacks what is meant for an application ("killer" or not) > like its domain's use cases and its behaviors and flows rendered > meaningfully in an user interface (or API).. Browsers allowed us to do > that, not without significant effort, by declaratively stating the > "meaning" and "behaviors" of components rendered on each > "applications" pages (flows). A web browser is a generic client for a collection of documents accessible via HTTP. As stated post, LLMs are an equivalent for structured data constructed from hyperlinks using RDF. > > IMHO, what we need is a framework that, for any integrated / linked > source of (semantic) data, renders for us useful applications, > translating what is expressed in simple statements source data into a > "representation" which allows to interact with that underlying data in > a contextualized use-case driven fashion. All this by only "feeding" > the "browser" with the data and schemes to be aligned inferring the > rest by aggregation, alignment and activation means of these source > data / schemes. That’s all fine—and LLMs and what you’re seeking aren’t mutually exclusive. My point isn't that there’s only one kind of RDF client, despite my use of “the.” My fundamental point is LLMs uniquely handle tasks that have challenged RDF clients for decades, thereby finally giving it "escape velocity" for even broader use by way of there ability to handle the following: 1. Proper use of standardized identifiers — avoiding the pitfalls exemplified by the infamous HttpRange-14 permathread. 2. Negating confusion associated with use of hash- or slash-based HTTP URIs for entity naming, in line with Linked Data Principles. 3. RDF visualization that actually conveys RDF’s unique value, rather than distorting it in ways that make its elegance appear as unnecessary esoterica e.g., visualization that doesn't differentiate it from Labeled Property Graphs (LPGs). These are the reasons I strongly believe that LLMs are the generic client for RDF, just as Mosaic and later Netscape were for HTML—unleashing a global Web of Documents connected via HTTP. Also, my article includes live demonstrations that back up this viewpoint. I’d be happy to review any live demos you have as well—no installations, just an HTTP URI I can click to follow my nose through your counterpoint. > > All this leveraging Semantic inference, heuristics (FCA: Formal > Concept Analysis), Domain Driven Development, DCI (Data, Contexts and > Interactions) design patterns and, of course, GenAI / LLMs. > > Sorry for the self-ad, but this is what I've been working on for a > long time: > https://sebxama.blogspot.com/2025/10/semantic-web-genai-enabled-eai.html See my comment above :) Kingsley > > Regards, > Sebastián. > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 1:52 PM Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> > wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > It’s been a while! > > Something important is happening right now, thanks to the > emergence of LLMs as the long-awaited generic RDF client (the > so-called “killer app”). We all know how Mosaic → Mozilla/Netscape > made HTML and HTTP globally usable by end-users and developers > alike. Well, the very same thing is finally happening with > RDF—albeit some 20+ years later than expected. > > Here’s a post I recently published on LinkedIn about this critical > development: > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/large-language-models-llms-powerful-generic-rdf-clients-idehen-xwhfe > > -- > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Home Page:http://www.openlinksw.com > Community Support:https://community.openlinksw.com > > Social Media: > LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > Twitter :https://twitter.com/kidehen > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Home Page:http://www.openlinksw.com Community Support:https://community.openlinksw.com Social Media: LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen Twitter :https://twitter.com/kidehen
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