Interesting Re: Open letter urging to pause AI

Interesting peek behind the curtain (comments from the www consortium listserve).Sent from my Galaxy
----- Original message --------From: Stephen Young <steve@electricmint.com> Date: 3/30/23  4:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI I may only be a "techbro", but when I come across an unexploded mine, I generally don't wait for "peer-reviewed" confirmation that mines were laid in the area before suggesting to my family that they not step on it.  Even if the mine is probably harmless.Yet another ill-informed ivory tower fluff piece (aka rant).-------- Original message --------From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23  4:01 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: janowicz@ucsb.edu Cc: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI čt 30. 3. 2023 v 9:04 odesílatel Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu> napsal:
  
    
  
  
    On 3/30/23 08:27, Georg Rehm wrote:
    
    
      
      This letter is nothing but hype. Emily Bender dissected the letter
      on Twitter and put together the essence of it on Medium. I’d like
      to invite everyone to have a look:
      
      
      https://medium.com/@emilymenonbender/policy-makers-please-dont-fall-for-the-distractions-of-aihype-e03fa80ddbf1
    
    
    
    My problem with posts like this link above is that they are no
      longer about science and scientific discourse but about activism.
      This is not even mentioning how deeply misleading the parrot
      analogy is anyways. 
      
      I agree with Stefan's argument about the speed of major social
      disruption. Still, concerning the big picture, I worry more about
      human stupidity (killing thousands daily) than artificial
      intelligence. 
      
      IMHO, one of the major problems (and I see many positive aspects
      otherwise) with GPT-like bots is that they take the friction out
      of content creation. While this may be positive in some more
      distant future, for now, it means that the entire way in which the
      Web, flow of information, education, and social media 'content'
      works may see rapid change within months to a degree where a
      majority of content we may see in 2024 could be synthetic. After
      all, there will be enough folks (human intelligence...) that want
      to get rich quickly by getting paid from ads for the thousands of
      AI-generated articles and images they can now post on their
      portals or social media every minute. "majority of content we see in 2024 could be synthetic" -- this would have enormous implications for the web, w3c etc. if true -- hard to quantify, maybe an analysis of common crawl would give some quick results 
      
      Of course, this is not the only issue and maybe not the most
      important one, but it points to an underlying problem: too long
      have we called the universe, the brain, AI, and so on the 'last
      frontiers of science', thereby forgetting that it is, in fact, US.
      We (science, policymakers, etc.) do not understand society at
      large. We are puzzled by election results,wars, reactions to Covid
      measures, lack of action on climate change, and so on. Hence, we
      may struggle to maintain civil order and discourse during the
      disruptions to job markets ahead of us, all while being flooded
      with an unprecedented amount of content (e.g., fake videos) with
      super-human social/cognitive engineering skills.
    
    Krzysztof
    
    
    
    
    
      
      
      Best regards,
      Georg
      
        ----- Original message --------From: Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23  2:57 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI Hello,I agree it is all hype. Some are worried the AI winter might dry up their funds for research.Most of deep learning is hype, chatgpt or even plus is hype, just a fancy mimicry....there is no self-awareness. Nothing revolutionary.[insert script here]Thanks,Adeel
          
            On 29. Mar 2023, at 21:46,
              ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
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                    This letter speaks for itself.
                    
                    
                    
                    https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/
                    
                    
                    
                      
                        
                      I may not want
                          to put it as bluntly as Elon Musk, who
                          cautioned against unregulated AI which he
                          called "more dangerous than nukes", but when
                          Nick Bostrom, the late Stephen Hawking, and
                          dozens, no hundreds of international experts,
                          scientists and industry leaders start ringing
                          the bell, is is time to pause and reflect.
                      
                        
                      Every aspect of
                          daily life, every industry, education systems,
                          academia and even our cognitive rights will be
                          impacted.
                      
                        
                      I would also
                          like to point out that some science fiction
                          authors have done a great job on very
                          accurately predicting a dystopian future ruled
                          by technology, perhaps the greatest of them
                          all being Philip K. Dick.
                      
                        
                      But there are
                          dozens of other authors as well and they all
                          give a fairly good impression what awaits us
                          if we do not regulate and control the further
                          development of AI now.
                      
                        
                      
                        
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