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- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:00:44 -0400
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- Cc: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org>
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Interesting peek behind the curtain (comments from the www consortium listserve).Sent from my Galaxy ----- Original message --------From: Stephen Young <steve@electricmint.com> Date: 3/30/23 4:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI I may only be a "techbro", but when I come across an unexploded mine, I generally don't wait for "peer-reviewed" confirmation that mines were laid in the area before suggesting to my family that they not step on it. Even if the mine is probably harmless.Yet another ill-informed ivory tower fluff piece (aka rant).-------- Original message --------From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23 4:01 AM (GMT-05:00) To: janowicz@ucsb.edu Cc: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI čt 30. 3. 2023 v 9:04 odesílatel Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu> napsal: On 3/30/23 08:27, Georg Rehm wrote: This letter is nothing but hype. Emily Bender dissected the letter on Twitter and put together the essence of it on Medium. I’d like to invite everyone to have a look: https://medium.com/@emilymenonbender/policy-makers-please-dont-fall-for-the-distractions-of-aihype-e03fa80ddbf1 My problem with posts like this link above is that they are no longer about science and scientific discourse but about activism. This is not even mentioning how deeply misleading the parrot analogy is anyways. I agree with Stefan's argument about the speed of major social disruption. Still, concerning the big picture, I worry more about human stupidity (killing thousands daily) than artificial intelligence. IMHO, one of the major problems (and I see many positive aspects otherwise) with GPT-like bots is that they take the friction out of content creation. While this may be positive in some more distant future, for now, it means that the entire way in which the Web, flow of information, education, and social media 'content' works may see rapid change within months to a degree where a majority of content we may see in 2024 could be synthetic. After all, there will be enough folks (human intelligence...) that want to get rich quickly by getting paid from ads for the thousands of AI-generated articles and images they can now post on their portals or social media every minute. "majority of content we see in 2024 could be synthetic" -- this would have enormous implications for the web, w3c etc. if true -- hard to quantify, maybe an analysis of common crawl would give some quick results Of course, this is not the only issue and maybe not the most important one, but it points to an underlying problem: too long have we called the universe, the brain, AI, and so on the 'last frontiers of science', thereby forgetting that it is, in fact, US. We (science, policymakers, etc.) do not understand society at large. We are puzzled by election results,wars, reactions to Covid measures, lack of action on climate change, and so on. Hence, we may struggle to maintain civil order and discourse during the disruptions to job markets ahead of us, all while being flooded with an unprecedented amount of content (e.g., fake videos) with super-human social/cognitive engineering skills. Krzysztof Best regards, Georg ----- Original message --------From: Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23 2:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI Hello,I agree it is all hype. Some are worried the AI winter might dry up their funds for research.Most of deep learning is hype, chatgpt or even plus is hype, just a fancy mimicry....there is no self-awareness. Nothing revolutionary.[insert script here]Thanks,Adeel On 29. Mar 2023, at 21:46, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote: This letter speaks for itself. https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/ I may not want to put it as bluntly as Elon Musk, who cautioned against unregulated AI which he called "more dangerous than nukes", but when Nick Bostrom, the late Stephen Hawking, and dozens, no hundreds of international experts, scientists and industry leaders start ringing the bell, is is time to pause and reflect. Every aspect of daily life, every industry, education systems, academia and even our cognitive rights will be impacted. I would also like to point out that some science fiction authors have done a great job on very accurately predicting a dystopian future ruled by technology, perhaps the greatest of them all being Philip K. Dick. But there are dozens of other authors as well and they all give a fairly good impression what awaits us if we do not regulate and control the further development of AI now. Milton Ponson GSM: +297 747 8280 PO Box 1154, Oranjestad Aruba, Dutch Caribbean Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development -- Prof. Dr. Georg Rehm Principal Researcher and Research Fellow DFKI GmbH, Alt-Moabit 91c, 10559 Berlin, Germany Phone: +49 30 23895-1833 – Fax: -1810 – Mobile: +49 173 2735829 georg.rehm@dfki.de Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz GmbH Firmensitz: Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Antonio Krüger (Vorsitzender), Helmut Ditzer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Ferri Abolhassan Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 -- Krzysztof Janowicz Professor for Geoinformatics, Director Center for Spatial Studies Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara 4830 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060 Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/ Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net
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