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- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:00:44 -0400
- To: Andrew Hoffer <abhoffer@gmail.com>, "john lloyd, jr." <jhocky999@msn.com>, Michael Hepp <michael.hepp@eaglewirelessnj.com>
- Cc: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org>
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Interesting peek behind the curtain (comments from the www consortium listserve).Sent from my Galaxy
----- Original message --------From: Stephen Young <steve@electricmint.com> Date: 3/30/23 4:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI I may only be a "techbro", but when I come across an unexploded mine, I generally don't wait for "peer-reviewed" confirmation that mines were laid in the area before suggesting to my family that they not step on it. Even if the mine is probably harmless.Yet another ill-informed ivory tower fluff piece (aka rant).-------- Original message --------From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23 4:01 AM (GMT-05:00) To: janowicz@ucsb.edu Cc: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI čt 30. 3. 2023 v 9:04 odesílatel Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu> napsal:
On 3/30/23 08:27, Georg Rehm wrote:
This letter is nothing but hype. Emily Bender dissected the letter
on Twitter and put together the essence of it on Medium. I’d like
to invite everyone to have a look:
https://medium.com/@emilymenonbender/policy-makers-please-dont-fall-for-the-distractions-of-aihype-e03fa80ddbf1
My problem with posts like this link above is that they are no
longer about science and scientific discourse but about activism.
This is not even mentioning how deeply misleading the parrot
analogy is anyways.
I agree with Stefan's argument about the speed of major social
disruption. Still, concerning the big picture, I worry more about
human stupidity (killing thousands daily) than artificial
intelligence.
IMHO, one of the major problems (and I see many positive aspects
otherwise) with GPT-like bots is that they take the friction out
of content creation. While this may be positive in some more
distant future, for now, it means that the entire way in which the
Web, flow of information, education, and social media 'content'
works may see rapid change within months to a degree where a
majority of content we may see in 2024 could be synthetic. After
all, there will be enough folks (human intelligence...) that want
to get rich quickly by getting paid from ads for the thousands of
AI-generated articles and images they can now post on their
portals or social media every minute. "majority of content we see in 2024 could be synthetic" -- this would have enormous implications for the web, w3c etc. if true -- hard to quantify, maybe an analysis of common crawl would give some quick results
Of course, this is not the only issue and maybe not the most
important one, but it points to an underlying problem: too long
have we called the universe, the brain, AI, and so on the 'last
frontiers of science', thereby forgetting that it is, in fact, US.
We (science, policymakers, etc.) do not understand society at
large. We are puzzled by election results,wars, reactions to Covid
measures, lack of action on climate change, and so on. Hence, we
may struggle to maintain civil order and discourse during the
disruptions to job markets ahead of us, all while being flooded
with an unprecedented amount of content (e.g., fake videos) with
super-human social/cognitive engineering skills.
Krzysztof
Best regards,
Georg
----- Original message --------From: Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com> Date: 3/30/23 2:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de> Cc: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>, W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Public-cogai <public-cogai@w3.org> Subject: Re: Open letter urging to pause AI Hello,I agree it is all hype. Some are worried the AI winter might dry up their funds for research.Most of deep learning is hype, chatgpt or even plus is hype, just a fancy mimicry....there is no self-awareness. Nothing revolutionary.[insert script here]Thanks,Adeel
On 29. Mar 2023, at 21:46,
ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
wrote:
This letter speaks for itself.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/
I may not want
to put it as bluntly as Elon Musk, who
cautioned against unregulated AI which he
called "more dangerous than nukes", but when
Nick Bostrom, the late Stephen Hawking, and
dozens, no hundreds of international experts,
scientists and industry leaders start ringing
the bell, is is time to pause and reflect.
Every aspect of
daily life, every industry, education systems,
academia and even our cognitive rights will be
impacted.
I would also
like to point out that some science fiction
authors have done a great job on very
accurately predicting a dystopian future ruled
by technology, perhaps the greatest of them
all being Philip K. Dick.
But there are
dozens of other authors as well and they all
give a fairly good impression what awaits us
if we do not regulate and control the further
development of AI now.
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