Re: EasierRDF

Frederik,

Are you comparing Cypher with Solid? Solid is not a query language and
not a W3C standard, it's an independent effort.

SPARQL and Cypher would be a more fair comparison.

The difference is that RDF was designed as a web-native data model
with data interchange in mind, and property graphs were not. Your use
cases may or may not benefit from that.

Martynas
atomgraph.com

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:23 PM Frederik Byl <frederik.byl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear community,
>
> I came across the project https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF. I think it is a good idea to have a look at RDF and the challenges it has. I'm struggling with the use, because the work that is necessary to make systems interoperable by understanding ontologies, formatting the data, extending ontologies, writing queries, etc, is huge! I am a big fan of graph databases and the ease of using Neo4j, Cypher, plain json and writing converters between readable json formats is so much faster and developer friendly. Queries in Cypher are intuitively and can be understood on sight. I am also looking at Solid and I find the approach of data pods extremely interesting and relevant, but the structure is so overwhelming and overcomplicated that I start losing faith in this. Since the project EasierRDF is started, I guess others struggle with the same? Are there some major advantages of using RDF and Sparql over Neo4j and Cypher? We could do linked data with Json-ld and Neo4j?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind regards,
> Frederik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> Van: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
> Date: do 10 feb. 2022 om 16:56
> Subject: Re: EasierRDF
> To: Frederik Byl <frederik.byl@gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Frederik,
>
> You are asking an excellent question, and I think the community as a
> whole would benefit from discussing it on a public list, both to get
> more viewpoints and to expose your question to other existing RDF users.
>   Would you be willing to post your question to the public
> semantic-web@w3.org list?
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/
>
> Thanks,
> David Booth
>
> On 2/10/22 10:43, Frederik Byl wrote:
> > Dear David,
> >
> > I am sorry to contact you in this straightforward manner. I came across
> > your project https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF
> > <https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF>. I think it is a good idea to have a
> > look at RDF and the challenges it has. I'm struggling with the use and
> > the work that is necessary to make systems interoperable by
> > understanding ontologies, formatting the data, extending ontologies etc,
> > is huge! I am a big fan of graph databases and the ease of using Neo4j
> > and plain json and writing converters between readable json formats is
> > so much faster and developer friendly. I am also looking at Solid and I
> > find the approach of data pods extremely interesting and relevant, but
> > the structure is so overwhelming and overcomplicated that I start losing
> > faith in this.Since you started the project Easier RDF, I guess you
> > struggle with the same, or do you see some major advantages in using RDF?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Frederik

Received on Friday, 11 February 2022 12:31:37 UTC