Re: The future of the W3C?

To the extent that Nick Doty is a former W3C staff member, current AC rep and participant and candidate for the next Advisory Board, sure it's an outsider view. (To be fair, that describes me, too).


To be clear, since W3C is relevant to the world, there is a certain interest in what is happening. But that should be balanced against the right of W3C employees to a certain amount of privacy regarding the organisational details of their work because it's part of their own life, and the added difficulty that is imposed by having to manage everday organisational work with a million onlookers providing commentary and suggestions.



Essentially, as Danbri and Ivan have noted, this is about organisational management - who pays the staff, writes their contracts, etc. As Ivan noted, the latest news is different each day, as negotiations over what people keep and give up in the transition go down to the wire.


If you're a W3C member, this is relevant because W3C governance heavily involves the members (who for 25 years have been the people who pay to keep the whole thing going for the benefit not only of themselves but the rest of the world who use the Web).


From a perspective of participants in W3C standards development, there's little to see - in the end, things like the copyright statement and the postal address will change slightly, and if you were in the habit of calling W3C on a landline telephone or sending faxes, those numbers will likely stop working. For the rest, the Process that governs W3C's actual work will still be the Process (it gets updated most years, but overall it's recognisable as an evolution of the process first published in 1997). Staff turnover is a background constant. But URLs, mailing lists, email addresses and so on will follow the principles outlined a quarter-century ago in TimBL's "Cool URLs don't change" (an important lesson W3C learned from experience).


I suggest that there is very little to see here for this mailing list.


cheers


Chaals

On Thursday, 22 December 2022 06:36:53 (+01:00), ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:


Maybe some staff members could elaborate on the ongoing internal processes at W3C?


The following link provides AN OUTSIDER view:
https://cdt.org/insights/changing-governance-at-w3c/




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On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 11:53:17 AM AST, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:




+1 to what Danbri said. 


Furthermore, things are evolving extremely fast, with meetings happening every day. By the time this mail goes out my SMTP server, it might already be outdated. So…


Ivan



On 19 Dec 2022, at 17:33, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote:






On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 15:40, Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@atomgraph.com> wrote:

Hi,

Not sure why this is not all over the @w3.org mailing lists, but it
seems like the future of the W3C is at stake?

"At this point it looks like we will not have an operational W3C
nonprofit on Jan 1. Every Director will vote their conscience, but it
seems likely that the asset transfer will be rejected, leaving MIT
responsible for its contracts with W3C Members (for which they have
paid)."
https://twitter.com/robinberjon/status/1603835007323209729

What consequences does this have for the existing and future specifications?




With respect, I think this is a moment for considering the specific situation of the W3C Team at MIT - the staff whose employment is under threat from this mess. The specs will broadly be ok, and don’t need healthcare or a plan for paying rent/mortgage/heating in the coming weeks.


Dan






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