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Re: A Less Ephemeral Web

From: Aymeric Vitte <aymeric@peersm.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:15:20 +0200
To: William Van Woensel <William.Van.Woensel@Dal.Ca>, Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>, "public-webapps@w3.org" <public-webapps@w3.org>, schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-voter-decision-support@w3.org" <public-voter-decision-support@w3.org>
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If I understand correctly, the concept is to store web pages parts
without using full bookmarks and/or full wayback machine indexing and/or
icloud web pages storage

Maybe take a look here: http://extractwidget.com/

This site was targeted for other purposes but clearly one of the target
was to extract part of web pages and store them as "widgets", with real
time retrieval or just stored as independent gadgets "forever"

There was a patent about this that did conflict with Web Components and
therefore was sold to Google & co, W3C was probably part of the deal

So to reach my point (again if I am not misunderstanding what the
discussion is about), maybe Web Components can do it or will

Le 28/08/2020 à 14:33, William Van Woensel a écrit :
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> Hi Adam,
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> If I understood correctly, your idea would involve semantically
> annotated bookmarks – i.e., allowing external third-party annotation
> but also leveraging pre-existing “data islands” within the bookmarked
> pages. If this is accurate, using that particular search term (i.e.,
> semantic bookmarking) already points towards some useful prior work.
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> From a technical point of view, I’ve dabbled a bit in extracting
> structured data from annotated websites: checkout Any23
> <https://any23.apache.org/>, java-RDFa
> <https://github.com/shellac/java-rdfa> and JS RDFa
> <https://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/impl/js/> (others could have
> emerged since).
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> Kind regards,
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> William
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> *From:*Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* August-27-20 3:27 PM
> *To:* public-webapps@w3.org; schema.org Mailing List
> <public-schemaorg@w3.org>; semantic-web@w3.org;
> public-voter-decision-support@w3.org
> *Subject:* A Less Ephemeral Web
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> *CAUTION:*The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.
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> Web users could press or click on a Web browser button to save, note
> or scrapbook webpages and/or Web-schema-annotated objects in them,
> storing them for later use. This storage could be organized into
> folders and Web schema could be of use for sorting webpages and/or
> objects into these folders. For example, a NewsArticle schema could
> indicate that, when saved, noted or scrapbooked, Web content could be
> organized into a folder called “News Articles”.
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> Webpages and/or objects in them could be stored on users’ local
> devices or stored on cloud-based storage such as Microsoft OneDrive or
> Google Drive. This could be configurable for end users.
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> Cloud-based storage and extensible architectures could facilitate the
> development of apps, plugins and services to analyze the contents of
> collections of stored webpages to provide features for end users. Some
> specific examples of analytical services in the news space include:
> (1) notifying users of the distribution of the sources of their
> collected articles, (2) notifying users whether their collected
> articles contain misinformation or disinformation, (3) notifying users
> whether their collected articles are “left-leaning” or
> “right-leaning”, (4) indicating to users the distribution of topics in
> their collected articles, (5) indicating to users sentiment analysis
> upon their collected articles, (6) indicating to users the
> comprehensiveness of their news search and gathering processes for a
> given topic, and (7) providing other features made possible by other
> AI and natural language processing tools.
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> Multiple means of navigating collections of stored webpages and/or
> objects can be envisioned. Users could utilize a calendar-based widget
> to navigate collections of webpages or objects. Users could also
> navigate via a folders-based user experience.
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> Multiple means of searching collections of stored webpages and/or
> objects can be envisioned, for example searching for content by text
> strings or keywords.
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> Thank you. I hope that these ideas are of some interest to you.
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> Best regards,

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> Adam Sobieski
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