- From: Martynas Jusevičius <martynas@atomgraph.com>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2019 10:34:03 +0200
- To: Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at>
- Cc: Patrick J Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, "Bradwell (US), Prachant" <prachant.bradwell@boeing.com>, semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Chris Harding <chris@lacibus.net>, Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@gmail.com>, xyzscy <1047571207@qq.com>
Regarding scale, the biggest KG I've see so far is claimed by Diffbot (1+ trillion facts): http://blog.diffbot.com/introducing-the-diffbot-knowledge-graph/ On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 10:24 AM Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at> wrote: > > Hi Pat, > > thanks for these extremely interesting post. I would like to jump onto > your summary: > > >>> > >>> 5. The semantic nets of the 1970s were, almost univerally, /much/ > >>> more expressive than knowledge graphs or RDF, or any of the other > >>> ‘graph’-like modern notations. They typically had ways of encoding > >>> quantifier scopes, disjunction, negation and sometimes such things > >>> as modal operators. The grandfather of them all, C.S.Peirce’s > >>> ‘existential graphs’ had the full expressivity of first-order logic > >>> in 1885 (implemented as ‘conceptual graphs’ by John Sowa about 90 > >>> years later http://www.jfsowa.com/cg/cgonto.htm). It has been > >>> downhill from there. > >>> > Indeed, old work on KR was mostly around very expressive Tboxes (and > Aboxes were just an uninteresting appendix where you put 2-3 facts to > illustrate your approach). Given the expressivism of that Tboxes it was > mostly work for the sand box of academic seminars. Turning this work > from the" Kopf auf die Füsse" is actually the real contribution of the > recent work on KGs. They come with bizarre large grown Aboxes and with > extremely simple Tboxes. There may be two major reasons for this: > > 1) World view: It is very hard to think on useful rules that hold on a > global scale. I saw trials in recent papers such as "parents and child > hold same nationality" (does already no hold in my simple case), "wife > and husband stay in the same city" (...). At University I learnt the > rule married(a,b) and male(a) implies female(b), and even married(a,b) > and married(a,c) implies equal(b,c) does not hold on an universal scale. > Maybe in future married(a,b) implies human(b) may even be invalid. Who > knows? > > 2) System view: A system with million of rules and trillions of facts > will never scale in the foreseeable future of the 21st century. Not even > during the building and knowledge curation phase. > > Therefore, we watch a new systems architecture evolving where extremely > big (semantic) data lakes are accessed and consolidated by means that > define a domain and task specific view on them. Kind of heterogeneous > and distributed micro Tboxes (to make a reference to the idea of micro > theories in CYC (*). This new view is arising over the last ten years > based on excellent work of LOD academics and people in industry on > in-house KGs and it is just in its beginning of releasing its full > potential. You know it always takes a bit downhill when you leave the > Ivory tower. > > Btw, I think you need at least multi-sets to even cover simple graphs. > > (*) with the difference that the KG is not structured by them. > >
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