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Re: Why are RDF, RDFS & OWL not returning human-friendly versions?

From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 10:54:27 +0000
To: Niklas Petersen <petersen@cs.uni-bonn.de>
CC: semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-ID: <c2d672b7-40a0-46ba-a8fd-61910aa5c7fb@email.android.com>
Agree that the foundational namespaces of RDF should have browser-friendly rendering (if anything just to point people to the right spec).

It's certainly possible, see for instance https://www.w3.org/ns/prov#Activity  (oh no, a resolvable #reference!)

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On 3 Apr 2019 07:54, Niklas Petersen <petersen@cs.uni-bonn.de> wrote:

Hi,

thanks for the technical explanation & ideas. I also saw that my browser (Firefox 66.0.2) was sending more than I asked for. But I did not want to ask a too technical question.

The question is, how do we proceed?
Is it ok as it is? Should it be changed? Who should be approached to change it? I was hoping that maybe some people who could change it would respond to my message, but that did not happen.

I can send a mail via the contact/support of the W3C, but I am not sure how successful I will be.

It is my opinion that having a human-friendly landing page to the URIs fits very well fit into the "EasierRDF" movement. How many of the "33% developers" are we loosing each single day where all they get back is some ugly source code?


Best regards,
Niklas

On 31.03.19 9:34 nachm., Stephen D. Williams wrote:

While mimetypes are a good starting point, there can always be a need for more granular options.

Query parameters are one good, easy to use option used in other circumstances for this kind of thing.  For instance:

https://unpkg.com/

>
>       Query Parameters
>
> |?meta|
>     Return metadata about any file in a package as JSON (e.g.|/any/file?meta|)
> |?module|
>     Expands all “bare” |import| specifiers <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/webappapis.html#resolve-a-module-specifier> in
>     JavaScript modules to unpkg URLs. This feature is /very experimental/
>

Stephen



On 3/31/19 4:02 AM, Richard Light wrote:
>
> Niklas,
>
> I was bitten by this issue when testing content negotiation outcomes. The issue is that your browser is not an innocent bystander
> in this HTTP transaction: it will have provided a requested set of response formats (and not just 'text/html') which will have an
> impact on what is returned.  And different browsers have different default settings (which you as their user can alter).
>
> Richard
>
> On 31/03/2019 06:59, Niklas Petersen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> visiting via a browser (text/html) the URIs of RDF, RDFS and OWL returns the turtle serialization of them. Would it not be better
>> to provide a more human-friendly version (.html)?
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#
>>     -> ? (probably to RDFS :/)
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#
>>     -> https://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#
>>     -> https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Niklas
>>
>>
>> .
>>
> --
> *Richard Light*


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