- From: Agnieszka Ławrynowicz <agnieszka.lawrynowicz@cs.put.poznan.pl>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:09:14 +0200
- To: Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>
- Cc: semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Miriam Fernandez <miriam.fernandez@open.ac.uk>, Krzysztof Janowicz <jano@geog.ucsb.edu>, Pascal Hitzler <pascal.hitzler@wright.edu>, John Domingue <john.domingue@open.ac.uk>
Dear Sarven, Thank you for your email and comments. We will discuss them among the organisers of ESWC and come back with feedback. As far as I understood there is a long term contract with Springer regarding ESWC. Anyway, we will take your comments into account and try to provide constructive feedback. Regards and cheers, Agnieszka > Wiadomość napisana przez Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> w dniu 18.09.2018, o godz. 12:47: > > To whom it may concern, > > Some will certainly view the following as unwarranted criticism, but I > would argue that it is about continuous improvement and raising > awareness based on societal and technical expectations. All feedback is > integral. Treat the following as you see fit. I come in peace (mostly). > > On 2018-09-08 15:09, Agnieszka Ławrynowicz wrote: >> *ESWC will not accept papers that, at the time of submission, are under >> review for or have already been published in or accepted for publication >> in a journal, another conference, or another ESWC track.* The conference >> organizers may share information on submissions with other venues to >> ensure that this rule is not violated. > > Please indicate: > > * the entities it may, planning to, or has shared data with, as well as > a notification at the time of sharing. > > * the data that's shared and under which conditions. > >> The proceedings of this conference will be published in Springer’s >> Lecture Notes in Computer Science series. > > That's too bad for the community given that researchers are given two > options to have their work be part of the scholarly record: > > * authors are required to sign away exclusive rights to Springer, and > articles become closed access / paywalled in that only subscribing > entities or pay-per-view can get to the content. > > * authors can take the Open Access option with Article Processing > Charges (APC).. about 38 EUR / page + taxes last time I checked. The > work is in theory readable by anyone. Keep in mind that Springer doesn't > particularly want such documents to be indexed eg. some archive services > respect the robots.txt. > > In either of those cases, only the privileged researchers are able to > access the content or are able to publish in an "open" way. > > Granted, online publishing is not free. Naturally there are costs to put > something out there and have it stick around long time. Aside: if you > don't have a personal domain and hosting, stop reading this email and > take care of that now. > > Springer doesn't promise that a representation of a scholarly record > will not change either. I've seen it changed and have documented. I've > also made aware of cases where Springer's manuscript editors have made > decisions without the authors' consent eg. changing affiliation, > changing article's content. Changes even happen after the publication > and that's a major no-no as far as what's expected of a scholarly > record. Springer has broken this legal or social "promise" - I would > argue that they are unfit for scholarly publishing on that point alone. > Beware with the OA option in that, authors are supposed to hold on to > the copyright of their work, but at least in one case (of mine) they've > somehow managed to assign the copyright to themselves. It took them a > week to correct the issue on their website. Yes, they literally had one > job. One job. > >> - Papers must not exceed 15 pages (including references). Papers that >> exceed the page limit will be rejected without review. > > Yikes! > > Note to junior researchers: I haven't seen this strongly enforced. It is > a ballpark length - for whatever it is worth, ie. mostly to have some > (arbitrary) uniformity for articles and peer-review process. The SW > venues tend to be flexible about the length (read: look the other way > for the time being, even if it is a few pages over, and slap your hand > gently until camera-ready). If I remember correctly, Springer doesn't > particularly care if ends up being a bit over either but they might > whine about it or ask you to shorten (or cough up cash?) > > I've seen abstracts break the "official" LNCS requirements ("at least 70 > and at most 150 words"), and still they are not rejected without review. > When it was brought up to PC Chairs, I was told along the lines of > "C'mon Sarven...". That wasn't at all about punishing authors, but to > test if they actually meant and respected the social agreement they've > put forward. > > So, I'd suggest to treat that as a general guideline. In the event a > venue rejects your work because your research article leaked into page > 16 or abstract doesn't fit a particular dimension, or some other obscure > reason, that is a good time as any to look into non-print-centric venues > to communicate your work on Semantic "Web" using *Web-centric* methods. > Tell the venue to get real in the meantime. > >> - All research submissions must be in English. > > Ack that's kind of a de facto standard, and there are (dis)advantages > associated to that. We don't have to dwell on that. Just out of > curiosity, have you checked with reviewers skills and interest? > >> - Submissions must be either in PDF or in HTML, formatted in the style >> of the Springer Publications format for Lecture Notes in Computer >> Science (LNCS). For details on the LNCS style, see Springer’s Author >> Instructions >> <https://www.springer.com/us/computer-science/lncs/conference-proceedings-guidelines> >> For HTML submission guidance, see the HTML submission guide >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nvM3yOQkQrSXiotSeMHEIjP42Xitlp6X_a0cQeFJthc/edit?usp=sharing>. >> - We encourage embedding metadata in the PDF/HTML to provide a machine >> readable link from the paper to the resource. > > There are a number of issued here that are intertwined. I'll try to > unpack for those unfamiliar: > > I remain excited that ESWC (as well as ISWC) is keeping the Web-centric > path open and raising its awareness for a few years now, and can only > encourage everyone and help wherever possible to push it even further. > We got this. > > Please note some clarifications on the current guidelines (hopefully > they'll be updated on the website soon): > > * the Linked Open Research Cloud ( https://linkedresearch.org/cloud ) is > for everyone. It doesn't require a particular application to interact > with. Just follow the basic process to send a notification about your > article or review. > > The next point is perhaps on a personal note: > > * if you self-publish/archive your work (eg. at your personal website, > institution, archive) prior to legally engaging with Springer, their > self-archiving policy doesn't apply. Publish your work at you see fit > (eg formatting, location, license) and then send a version that fulfils > ESWC's requirements. If you go through the ESWC/Springer process, > naturally need to meet their requirements. However, that original > version that you self-published/archived, that's yours. No one can touch > that or demand any changes. Check with your legal know-how team if > you're in doubt or would like to learn more. > > As for camera-ready, that's still Springer's print-centric workflow > unfortunately. But it really doesn't matter given the big picture. Your > HTML version was never intended for them to begin with. It was always a > gateway to something much more important. > > One fundamental reason for the HTML push over the years wasn't because > of the format itself but what it entails. Which brings me to: > > Researchers and labs in the SW community increasingly improve their > practice to adopt Web-centric methods to communicate their knowledge > with the rest of the world. There are different affordances as to what > and how a researcher can potentially communicate in contrast to what a > third-party company offers. A third-party will always pose as a barrier, > a limit to freedom of expression, whether it is in the form of article's > accessibility, views or interactions; as well as constraints on > exercising one's autonomy or ownership of their contributions eg. where > they can publish their knowledge, who can access it and under what > conditions, have it be part of the global scholarly record and so on. > > Please note that "Self-publishing" doesn't necessarily mean that such > work automatically meets a certain quality-check and gets certified by > the community. Registration (ie existence of something) and > certification are orthogonal functions. We certainly want both without > having to compromise on the location or ownership of the content. > > Keep in mind that the SW community does reviewing for free. The > publisher doesn't pay anyone obviously. Why would they when we are > willing to hand everything over on a silver platter? > > Ask the ESWC/ISWC.. organisers or the steering committee as to what the > agreements are with Springer, what the budgets are.. why the conference > registrations are so high. > > Ask your librarian or institution how much they pay for the > subscriptions. I'll save you some time: you're not going to get a > complete and accurate answer. The scholarly community pays one way or > another. > > Ask your colleagues whether it would be possible to continue with your > research communication without paying a third-party publisher. In most > cases, you can drop them. This sort of a thing is already a nation-wide > thing in Germany and Sweden re Elsevier. More countries are leaning > towards this. > > There was (maybe still is) possibility that if your article is > peer-reviewed and accepted, it could be presented as an "invited talk" > without it being in the proceedings. Now I understand that this is not > something researchers may opt for if possible, but something to consider > and maybe kindly ask the ESWC for the possibility. > > Ultimately what some of us want: > > * ESWC community stops their business with Springer (or any for-profit > third-party "publishing" service provider) > > * ESWC (as well as ISWC, The Web Conf, Semantic Journal... with their > respective "publishers") self-operates ie. everything as usual re > peer-reviews and certification, but looks into enabling > self-publishing/archiving, alongside investing towards dedicated > archiving (or even through on-demand services). CEUR-WS.org is one of > many possibilities that can address the community's needs. > >> - Authors of accepted papers will be required to provide semantic >> annotations for the abstract of their submission, which will be made >> available on the conference web site. Details will be provided at the >> time of acceptance. > > Include the URL of your self-published/archived ("preprint") in your > abstract so that a free/open copy can be easily discovered for those > coming across the publisher's versions. Examples: > > * Paywalled: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-25639-9_5 > * Open Access: > https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-60131-1_33 > > I regret both publications for different reasons, but perhaps the OA > publication (with APC) even more so because we had to pay extra on top > of what our institutions were paying for the subscription. Acknowledged > that every case differs, but something for everyone to keep in mind. > What are the consequences when you go through a third-party? > >> - Accepted papers will be distributed to conference attendees and also >> published by Springer in the printed conference proceedings, as part of >> the Lecture Notes in Computer Science series. > > If/when Springer makes the publications available on their website for a > brief period of time before going closed access, use archive services > (archive.is, perma.cc, ..) to make a snapshot. Internet Archive is > polite about a server's robots.txt, so unfortunately it doesn't get > through but I think there are other ways any way - I'm sure you can > figure that out ;) > >> - At least one author of each accepted paper must register for the >> conference and present the paper there. > > Some can't legally or physically participate. Please indicate if > >> Open and Transparent Review Policy > > All great! I'm really glad to see this continue. > > > We want research contributions to be: > > * registered: a persistent URI leading to a free and open accessible > location of the full content > > * certified: peer-reviewed and other forms of quality-control and > confirmations from the community > > * archived: at trusted locations > > .. and naturally findable/discoverable, accessible, shareable and so on. > > Along with that, we want to take the opportunity to practice the things > that the SW research community came up with - that's part of the HTML > being the "gateway" format, but it is actually about democratising > scholarly information as Linked Data, decentralisation, and building and > using interoperable applications to do cool stuff with it. Go on and use > the fancy tech in your research contributions, whether it is an article, > review, data, or anything for that matter. > > None of that requires a third-party "publisher" whatsoever. If anything, > their archaic business-driven practices holds progress and considered to > be ethically unjustified. This is not strictly a SW research community > issue but systematic across the scholarly knowledge industry. > > > So.. good luck. Ack the fine-print and consequences of own actions. > Enjoy the conference. Control Yourself! > > -Sarven > http://csarven.ca/#i >
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