- From: Agnieszka Ławrynowicz <agnieszka.lawrynowicz@cs.put.poznan.pl>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 22:09:14 +0200
- To: Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>
- Cc: semantic-web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Miriam Fernandez <miriam.fernandez@open.ac.uk>, Krzysztof Janowicz <jano@geog.ucsb.edu>, Pascal Hitzler <pascal.hitzler@wright.edu>, John Domingue <john.domingue@open.ac.uk>
Dear Sarven, 
Thank you for your email and comments. 
We will discuss them among the organisers of ESWC and come back with feedback. 
As far as I understood there is a long term contract with Springer regarding ESWC. Anyway, we will take your comments into account and try to provide constructive feedback.
Regards and cheers,
Agnieszka
> Wiadomość napisana przez Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> w dniu 18.09.2018, o godz. 12:47:
> 
> To whom it may concern,
> 
> Some will certainly view the following as unwarranted criticism, but I
> would argue that it is about continuous improvement and raising
> awareness based on societal and technical expectations. All feedback is
> integral. Treat the following as you see fit. I come in peace (mostly).
> 
> On 2018-09-08 15:09, Agnieszka Ławrynowicz wrote:
>> *ESWC will not accept papers that, at the time of submission, are under
>> review for or have already been published in or accepted for publication
>> in a journal, another conference, or another ESWC track.* The conference
>> organizers may share information on submissions with other venues to
>> ensure that this rule is not violated.
> 
> Please indicate:
> 
> * the entities it may, planning to, or has shared data with, as well as
> a notification at the time of sharing.
> 
> * the data that's shared and under which conditions.
> 
>> The proceedings of this conference will be published in Springer’s
>> Lecture Notes in Computer Science series. 
> 
> That's too bad for the community given that researchers are given two
> options to have their work be part of the scholarly record:
> 
> * authors are required to sign away exclusive rights to Springer, and
> articles become closed access / paywalled in that only subscribing
> entities or pay-per-view can get to the content.
> 
> * authors can take the Open Access option with Article Processing
> Charges (APC).. about 38 EUR / page + taxes last time I checked. The
> work is in theory readable by anyone. Keep in mind that Springer doesn't
> particularly want such documents to be indexed eg. some archive services
> respect the robots.txt.
> 
> In either of those cases, only the privileged researchers are able to
> access the content or are able to publish in an "open" way.
> 
> Granted, online publishing is not free. Naturally there are costs to put
> something out there and have it stick around long time. Aside: if you
> don't have a personal domain and hosting, stop reading this email and
> take care of that now.
> 
> Springer doesn't promise that a representation of a scholarly record
> will not change either. I've seen it changed and have documented. I've
> also made aware of cases where Springer's manuscript editors have made
> decisions without the authors' consent eg. changing affiliation,
> changing article's content. Changes even happen after the publication
> and that's a major no-no as far as what's expected of a scholarly
> record. Springer has broken this legal or social "promise" - I would
> argue that they are unfit for scholarly publishing on that point alone.
> Beware with the OA option in that, authors are supposed to hold on to
> the copyright of their work, but at least in one case (of mine) they've
> somehow managed to assign the copyright to themselves. It took them a
> week to correct the issue on their website. Yes, they literally had one
> job. One job.
> 
>> - Papers must not exceed 15 pages (including references). Papers that
>> exceed the page limit will be rejected without review.
> 
> Yikes!
> 
> Note to junior researchers: I haven't seen this strongly enforced. It is
> a ballpark length - for whatever it is worth, ie. mostly to have some
> (arbitrary) uniformity for articles and peer-review process. The SW
> venues tend to be flexible about the length (read: look the other way
> for the time being, even if it is a few pages over, and slap your hand
> gently until camera-ready). If I remember correctly, Springer doesn't
> particularly care if ends up being a bit over either but they might
> whine about it or ask you to shorten (or cough up cash?)
> 
> I've seen abstracts break the "official" LNCS requirements ("at least 70
> and at most 150 words"), and still they are not rejected without review.
> When it was brought up to PC Chairs, I was told along the lines of
> "C'mon Sarven...". That wasn't at all about punishing authors, but to
> test if they actually meant and respected the social agreement they've
> put forward.
> 
> So, I'd suggest to treat that as a general guideline. In the event a
> venue rejects your work because your research article leaked into page
> 16 or abstract doesn't fit a particular dimension, or some other obscure
> reason, that is a good time as any to look into non-print-centric venues
> to communicate your work on Semantic "Web" using *Web-centric* methods.
> Tell the venue to get real in the meantime.
> 
>> - All research submissions must be in English.
> 
> Ack that's kind of a de facto standard, and there are (dis)advantages
> associated to that. We don't have to dwell on that. Just out of
> curiosity, have you checked with reviewers skills and interest?
> 
>> - Submissions must be either in PDF or in HTML, formatted in the style
>> of the Springer Publications format for Lecture Notes in Computer
>> Science (LNCS). For details on the LNCS style, see Springer’s Author
>> Instructions
>> <https://www.springer.com/us/computer-science/lncs/conference-proceedings-guidelines> 
>> For HTML submission guidance, see the HTML submission guide
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nvM3yOQkQrSXiotSeMHEIjP42Xitlp6X_a0cQeFJthc/edit?usp=sharing>.
>> - We encourage embedding metadata in the PDF/HTML to provide a machine
>> readable link from the paper to the resource.
> 
> There are a number of issued here that are intertwined. I'll try to
> unpack for those unfamiliar:
> 
> I remain excited that ESWC (as well as ISWC) is keeping the Web-centric
> path open and raising its awareness for a few years now, and can only
> encourage everyone and help wherever possible to push it even further.
> We got this.
> 
> Please note some clarifications on the current guidelines (hopefully
> they'll be updated on the website soon):
> 
> * the Linked Open Research Cloud ( https://linkedresearch.org/cloud ) is
> for everyone. It doesn't require a particular application to interact
> with. Just follow the basic process to send a notification about your
> article or review.
> 
> The next point is perhaps on a personal note:
> 
> * if you self-publish/archive your work (eg. at your personal website,
> institution, archive) prior to legally engaging with Springer, their
> self-archiving policy doesn't apply. Publish your work at you see fit
> (eg formatting, location, license) and then send a version that fulfils
> ESWC's requirements. If you go through the ESWC/Springer process,
> naturally need to meet their requirements. However, that original
> version that you self-published/archived, that's yours. No one can touch
> that or demand any changes. Check with your legal know-how team if
> you're in doubt or would like to learn more.
> 
> As for camera-ready, that's still Springer's print-centric workflow
> unfortunately. But it really doesn't matter given the big picture. Your
> HTML version was never intended for them to begin with. It was always a
> gateway to something much more important.
> 
> One fundamental reason for the HTML push over the years wasn't because
> of the format itself but what it entails. Which brings me to:
> 
> Researchers and labs in the SW community increasingly improve their
> practice to adopt Web-centric methods to communicate their knowledge
> with the rest of the world. There are different affordances as to what
> and how a researcher can potentially communicate in contrast to what a
> third-party company offers. A third-party will always pose as a barrier,
> a limit to freedom of expression, whether it is in the form of article's
> accessibility, views or interactions; as well as constraints on
> exercising one's autonomy or ownership of their contributions eg. where
> they can publish their knowledge, who can access it and under what
> conditions, have it be part of the global scholarly record and so on.
> 
> Please note that "Self-publishing" doesn't necessarily mean that such
> work automatically meets a certain quality-check and gets certified by
> the community. Registration (ie existence of something) and
> certification are orthogonal functions. We certainly want both without
> having to compromise on the location or ownership of the content.
> 
> Keep in mind that the SW community does reviewing for free. The
> publisher doesn't pay anyone obviously. Why would they when we are
> willing to hand everything over on a silver platter?
> 
> Ask the ESWC/ISWC.. organisers or the steering committee as to what the
> agreements are with Springer, what the budgets are.. why the conference
> registrations are so high.
> 
> Ask your librarian or institution how much they pay for the
> subscriptions. I'll save you some time: you're not going to get a
> complete and accurate answer. The scholarly community pays one way or
> another.
> 
> Ask your colleagues whether it would be possible to continue with your
> research communication without paying a third-party publisher. In most
> cases, you can drop them. This sort of a thing is already a nation-wide
> thing in Germany and Sweden re Elsevier. More countries are leaning
> towards this.
> 
> There was (maybe still is) possibility that if your article is
> peer-reviewed and accepted, it could be presented as an "invited talk"
> without it being in the proceedings. Now I understand that this is not
> something researchers may opt for if possible, but something to consider
> and maybe kindly ask the ESWC for the possibility.
> 
> Ultimately what some of us want:
> 
> * ESWC community stops their business with Springer (or any for-profit
> third-party "publishing" service provider)
> 
> * ESWC (as well as ISWC, The Web Conf, Semantic Journal... with their
> respective "publishers") self-operates ie. everything as usual re
> peer-reviews and certification, but looks into enabling
> self-publishing/archiving, alongside investing towards dedicated
> archiving (or even through on-demand services). CEUR-WS.org is one of
> many possibilities that can address the community's needs.
> 
>> - Authors of accepted papers will be required to provide semantic
>> annotations for the abstract of their submission, which will be made
>> available on the conference web site. Details will be provided at the
>> time of acceptance.
> 
> Include the URL of your self-published/archived ("preprint") in your
> abstract so that a free/open copy can be easily discovered for those
> coming across the publisher's versions. Examples:
> 
> * Paywalled: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-25639-9_5
> * Open Access:
> https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-60131-1_33
> 
> I regret both publications for different reasons, but perhaps the OA
> publication (with APC) even more so because we had to pay extra on top
> of what our institutions were paying for the subscription. Acknowledged
> that every case differs, but something for everyone to keep in mind.
> What are the consequences when you go through a third-party?
> 
>> - Accepted papers will be distributed to conference attendees and also
>> published by Springer in the printed conference proceedings, as part of
>> the Lecture Notes in Computer Science series.
> 
> If/when Springer makes the publications available on their website for a
> brief period of time before going closed access, use archive services
> (archive.is, perma.cc, ..) to make a snapshot. Internet Archive is
> polite about a server's robots.txt, so unfortunately it doesn't get
> through but I think there are other ways any way - I'm sure you can
> figure that out ;)
> 
>> - At least one author of each accepted paper must register for the
>> conference and present the paper there.
> 
> Some can't legally or physically participate. Please indicate if
> 
>> Open and Transparent Review Policy
> 
> All great! I'm really glad to see this continue.
> 
> 
> We want research contributions to be:
> 
> * registered: a persistent URI leading to a free and open accessible
> location of the full content
> 
> * certified: peer-reviewed and other forms of quality-control and
> confirmations from the community
> 
> * archived: at trusted locations
> 
> .. and naturally findable/discoverable, accessible, shareable and so on.
> 
> Along with that, we want to take the opportunity to practice the things
> that the SW research community came up with - that's part of the HTML
> being the "gateway" format, but it is actually about democratising
> scholarly information as Linked Data, decentralisation, and building and
> using interoperable applications to do cool stuff with it. Go on and use
> the fancy tech in your research contributions, whether it is an article,
> review, data, or anything for that matter.
> 
> None of that requires a third-party "publisher" whatsoever. If anything,
> their archaic business-driven practices holds progress and considered to
> be ethically unjustified. This is not strictly a SW research community
> issue but systematic across the scholarly knowledge industry.
> 
> 
> So.. good luck. Ack the fine-print and consequences of own actions.
> Enjoy the conference. Control Yourself!
> 
> -Sarven
> http://csarven.ca/#i
> 
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