- From: Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:30:08 +0200
- To: dsr@w3.org
- Cc: martin@weborganics.co.uk, henry.story@bblfish.net, nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr, frans.knibbe@geodan.nl, semantic-web@w3.org
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Thanks for the interesting responses, sounds like there could be lots to talk about! I better not derail the thread with it though. Is it worth starting another thread? Very wary of annoying people or discussing it in the wrong place. Anthony On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:35 PM Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> wrote: > What about the sentient web, which blends the web of symbol knowledge with > computational statistics? The traditional logic & proof mindset will give > way to new approaches that are better suited to machine learning and > rational belief in a world of uncertain, incomplete and inconsistent > knowledge. > > On 18 Oct 2018, at 18:46, Martin McEvoy <martin@weborganics.co.uk> wrote: > > Hyperdata is actually much more appropriate in today's modern landscape. > > Best wishes > Martin > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, 15:43 Henry Story, <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: > >> >> >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 16:23, Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 02:32:29PM +0200, Frans Knibbe wrote: >> >> To me, the term 'machine-readable web' excludes an important target group: >> us humans (assuming all current list subscribers are human). When I try >> explain the concepts of Linked Data or the Semantic Web to an uninitiated >> I >> like to use the terms 'web of data' or even shorter 'data web'. For some >> more finesse the term 'the web of self-explanatory data', could be >> considered, but I think just putting the terms 'web' and 'data' together >> sets the tone well enough. >> Also, a term like 'data web' is happily free of technicalities. >> >> >> +10 >> >> >> I like the word hyper-data, as it helps both >> 1) show the continuity it has with hyper-text >> 2) has a fascinating relation to what is know as hyper-systems as >> described >> Rutten, J. J. (2000). Universal coalgebra: a theory of systems. >> * Theoretical computer science*, *249*(1), 3-80. >> >> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.159.2020&rep=rep1&type=pdf >> >> which is a function of the form S -> 2^2^S >> >> ie one that takes you from a state to a set of sets of such states. Sets >> of states are >> often thought of as propositions, and sets of sets of those sounds like >> quad stores. >> >> >> >> perhaps even a corner stone like RDF might be replaced by something that >> is >> considered better in the future? >> >> >> I heard of https://ipfs.io/ lately. >> >> >> IPFS is a protocol, so in the realm of coalgebras, whereas RDF is a data >> format and >> so in the realm of algebras. Both are orthogonal, and defined in dual >> categories. >> RDF is defined in terms of IRIs and so could easily describe states on a >> IPFS System, >> just as it can on an HTTPS one. >> >> >> >> -- >> Nicolas Chauvat >> >> logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de >> connaissances >> >> >> > Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett > W3C Data Activity Lead & W3C champion for the Web of things > > > > > > >
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