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Re: W3C decentralized stack?

From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 11:29:26 -0400
To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
Cc: semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>
Message-ID: <98bf33a8-1312-5a4b-e990-fca2b9fe8400@w3.org>
I tend to divide "decentralized web" folks into two distinct camps:

1. Folks who think the Web was never sufficiently decentralized. 
Basically, the DNS has always been a vulnerability which bothers them. 
They need to grapple with Zooko's triangle, and usually have some 
crypto-heavy solution. This is all at or below http. I think DIDs would 
be the first thing W3C has done in this space.

2. Folks who think the Web itself is decentralized, but applications are 
increasingly not.  "REdecentralize the web" gets at this.  Here we need 
to grapple with the fact that it's much easier and more financially 
rewarding to build multi-user (social) systems as a silo.  This is all 
above http.  This is what TimBL and I were aiming at with Crosscloud, 
and the W3C tackled with the Social Web Protocols.

     -- Sandro (former W3C Decentralization Lead, but then the money ran 
out)

On 11/2/18 5:19 AM, Paola Di Maio wrote:
> Thank you Dave
>
> Looks like important work-
> for me the web has always been decentralized, I am reading through the 
> docs you sent below
> trying to figure out the changes in the architecture
>  (if I do figure out, may be able to add a reference in a paper due 
> for submission)
>
> I wonder if in the table 1.2 Design Goals, or elsewhere, the value 
> 'uniqueness; should be considered
> I read  in 1.1.3. that the DI should be globally unique, and that is 
> quite important to enable logical operations
>
> Pls Update us when you got stuff
> thanks
>
> PDM
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> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 4:27 PM Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org 
> <mailto:dsr@w3.org>> wrote:
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>     The following is a nice introduction:
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>     https://dci.mit.edu/decentralizedweb/
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>     There is a CG proposal on decentralised identifiers, see:
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>     https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/
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>>     On 2 Nov 2018, at 03:59, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>     We heard of the decentralized web both with the summer summit and
>>     TBL announcement , but
>>     I dont think we have seen the W3C diagram of the decentralized
>>     stack,  just asking, is W3C reviewing the stack in the light of
>>     the decentralized web
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>     Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org <mailto:dsr@w3.org>>
>     http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett
>     W3C Data Activity Lead & W3C champion for the Web of things
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