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Erotetics on Stack Exchange was: new semantic web stackexchange proposal opened

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 14:06:29 +0100
Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <5F7BDF7D-51B2-43EF-8968-F47233B79AA2@bblfish.net>
To: Christian Chiarcos <christian.chiarcos@web.de>
Erotetics is the logic of questions and answers [1], which formalises 
deductive moves from one question to the next among other things. In 
any case I am  slowly working my way to understanding Stack Exchange 
by asking questions there.

One question I asked on the Open Data Meta space was how appropriate they 
thought semantic web questions would be if posted there.

https://opendata.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/413/integration-with-semantic-web-data-community/415

A couple of answers indicated that they would be very happy to have 
more questions from our community there.
So I asked a couple that are on my mind right now:

- "Why is the Open World Assumption so central to the semantic web?"
https://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/13626/why-is-the-open-world-assumption-so-central-to-the-semantic-web
- "(How) Was SPARQL influenced by erotetics?"
https://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/13625/how-was-sparql-influenced-by-erotetics

I think folks who posted questions on "Web Data" on area51 [2] 
could try reposting those they are the most interested in on OpenData
and people here could join the OpenData community and try to answer them. 
If things go well we can create a good community on OpenData and so 
transform that space. If things don't we can put more energy into opening
a new stack exchange space - but beware that that is quite a long process
and requires a lot of experts to join. The more fragmented a space the 
more difficult it is to get the right expertise.

Henry Story

PS. for working groups on a standard it is best if one has mostly people
who understand the area. For startups one needs people to want to work
to a common goal. But a space of questions and answers that can be filtered
by tags allows much wider diverse communities to join.

PPS. Do we yet have a community group for the semantic-web mailing list?
The blurb on our archive page points only to closed pages
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/


[1] I just had to use that word! :-) 
 See a good introduction 
   Wisniewski, Andrzej.  
   "Semantics of questions." 
   The handbook of contemporary semantic theory 3 (2015): 273
which I got by asking the question "What is a philosophical Question?"
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/57880/what-is-a-philosophical-question?noredirect=1#comment157889_57880

[2] https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/web-data

> On 8 Dec 2018, at 17:16, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
> 
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>> On 8 Dec 2018, at 16:32, Christian Chiarcos <christian.chiarcos@web.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> very nice initiative, and I appreciate renaming it to web data. Just added by 5 questions, too. 
>> BTW: What we should probably do (to increase the number of relevant questions) is to identify StackExchange questions that actually belong here. There are plenty of them, in webmasters, open-data, gis, softwareengineering, etc., just search for RDF, etc. ;)
> 
> Good idea. I have asked my 5 questions and voted 4 times (I have one vote left).
> 
> Here are the links to questions with those tags:
> 
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=rdf
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=json-ld
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=sparql
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=xml
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=owl
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic-web
>    https://stackexchange.com/search?q=linked-data
> 
> It's actually a reasonable question whether a new repository is a good idea given the number
> of questions there. It could actually indicate also that they would gain by having one repository with communities based on linked data that allow questions to be link across communities.
> 
> I suppose 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Christian
>> 
>> Am Sa., 8. Dez. 2018 um 14:44 Uhr schrieb Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>:
>> I have renamed the proposal to Web Data, as a stack exchange site needs to be as wide as possible
>> to get people from all areas to contribute expertise. After all it is the questions there that select
>> the experts, and experts don't want to follow too many different sites.
>> 
>> I can only post 5 questions myself.  One needs 40 or more voted up by 10 for this to start.
>> So if you can think of practical questions (including in XML and JSON) that you have
>> had please post them there.
>> 
>> My guess is that it will be a great place for students to come to.
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> PS. There could be a question as to how it would help stack exchange if it used linked data.
>> 
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>> > On 8 Dec 2018, at 10:22, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
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>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On 8 Dec 2018, at 00:33, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On 12/7/18 10:18 AM, Henry Story wrote:
>> >>> Perhaps the trick for more pragmatic answers would be to open
>> >>>   {rdf/semweb}.stackexchange.com <http://stackexchange.com>
>> >> 
>> >> Good idea!  I think rdf.stackexchange.com would be best.  Will you take the lead on getting this set up?
>> > 
>> > I have started a proposal for a new stack exchange group
>> > 
>> > https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/120833/semantic-web?referrer=8LVIlli-Jxo2REi_fi0Evw2
>> > 
>> > I have called it "Semantic Web" for the moment because in order to get a good range of experts one needs
>> > to cast a very wide net (eg: maths.stackexchange.com). RDF itself could lean people to think we are just 
>> > dealing with a serialization format, where we want to incorporate SPARQL, reasoning, linked data publication,
>> > OWL, libraries,  algorithms for efficiently manipulating rdf, publishing data on the web, developing ontologies, etc...
>> > We have a wide range of experts that publish in journals, and teach students at universities under 
>> > the semantic web heading who can help.
>> > 
>> > To become public we need to gather a large enough community of experts to participate, and
>> > we need 50 interesting questions.
>> > 
>> > See the rules here:
>> > 
>> >  https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq
>> > 
>> > "the goal is to come up with at least 40 questions that embody the topic's scope. When at least 40 questions have a score of at least ten net votes (up minus down), then the proposal is considered "defined.""
>> > 
>> > So it's really up to people here. 
>> > 
>> > I think a semantic web stack exchange makes sense, as the semantic web is too practical for
>> > maths.stackexchange.com and too far away from many in computer science which has both 
>> > {cs,cstheory}.stackexchange.com. 
>> > 
>> > But we'll see. If we get enough people from this list, we can then spread the word through academia
>> > and industry.
>> > 
>> > This mailing list could then refer to answers developed there, and as a a fallback for questions that
>> > are difficult to ask. StackExchange tends to push people to be very clear with their questions, when 
>> > it is sometimes that is not so easy to do.
>> > 
>> > Perhaps Web Data would be a more generic term even...
>> > 
>> > Henry Story
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> David Booth
>> >> 
>> > 
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