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Re: URI Collapsing: was (RDF graph merging: How useful is it really? (was Re: Blank Nodes Re: Toward easier RDF: a proposal))

From: Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 11:57:24 +0000
Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Message-Id: <F6CD5ADD-A1FF-4EA9-8BE9-457D79AC2552@glasers.org>
To: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
Hi David,

> On 30 Nov 2018, at 19:38, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
> I suggest we call this "URI *Collapsing*" instead of "Colliding", because the WebArch already defines "URI Collision" as "Using the same URI to directly identify different resources", which is not what we want:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#URI-collision
OK, yeah - fine.
Although if you wanted it different term, I would have thought “URI Collusion” would have been the mot juste & mot de nos jours :-)
I’m not sure it is “Collapsing”, but I would never want to get hung up on a name, so fine.
Although actually, “URI Collusion” has really grown on me, to be honest.

> 
> More below . . . .
> 
> On 11/30/18 12:22 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote:
>> 
>> And this would encompass the knowledge that “William Hill” is the same name as “Bill Hill”, even if they aren’t the same person, if we wanted.
> 
> Interesting.  I can definitely see how that could be useful.  However, I would caution against automatically saying that "William Hill" is the same name as "Bill Hill", because there are communities where a child is traditionally named after a parent's nickname.   So if William's nickname was Bill, he might have a child whose formal name is actually Bill.  But this is a slight digression.
> 
Absolutely.
I picked it deliberately to tease out the sort of thing that will be a typical issue - my sons are called Benny & Roni (and deliberately not called Benjamin or Ronald, because I dislike those names, and especially how they are pronounced in some other languages that matter to me).
But just because there is a person called Bill Hill, who isn’t called William Hill doesn’t mean that the name William Hill is not the same name as Bill Hill.
And I bet you my sons have been called Ronald or Benjamin by some people sometimes.
If we get that far, there will be a lot of those sorts of discussion.
But of course you can have different equivalence datasets that have different policies.

By the way, if I seem to be ignoring context, it may be because I can’t get to see much web at the moment (which includes your GDoc summary sheet), and I can’t get to your original message, or quite a lot of others - sorry.

So we seem all (you and I) agreed.
I guess that may end the sub-thread; so what now?

Best
Hugh
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