- From: Florian Kleedorfer <florian.kleedorfer@austria.fm>
- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:30:16 +0100
- CC: W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <0EE39AFF-0D4D-45E9-A22F-DD02C7B7B50F@austria.fm>
Hi, You may be right about the overlap between our goals. See https://github.com/researchstudio-sat/webofneeds for more context regarding our work. Best, Florian Am 17. November 2017 23:13:30 MEZ schrieb Sebastian Samaruga <ssamarug@gmail.com>: >thinking it up a little, it seems 'upper ontologies' should be dynamic >(semantic) by nature. please read the last paragraphs of this document: > >https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics/blob/master/Document.pdf?raw=true > >if we need 'upper ontologies' why not stay with relational databases >and >views / queries, for example, without needing rigid schemas again. Even >OOP >provides us yet the concept of alignment to a class hierarchy... > >Best, >Sebastián Samaruga >--- >http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar > > >On Nov 16, 2017 3:57 PM, "Florian Kleedorfer" ><florian.kleedorfer@austria.fm> >wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As you may recall, I've asked this list about messaging/negotiating >using >> linked data[1], and it led me and my colleagues to a concept of >RDF-based >> agreements[2]. (Thanks again for your input!) >> >> Now it's time for us to define how the negotiating parties come up >with >> the data (set of rdf triples) that they agree on. >> >> One Idea we have is that both particpants (P1,P2) specify 'goals', >each >> consisting of a SHACL shapes graph and a data graph. Two goals can be >> tested for compatibility by merging the two data graphs and then >testing if >> the resulting graph is valid given the shapes defined by both goals. >The >> problem we face with this approach is merging the two data graphs. >Consider >> the example in this gist: >> >> https://gist.github.com/fkleedorfer/81b32e3235105a4a4743e9fa76ba9332 >> >> In that example, we would want to merge these two graphs: >> >> ex1:p1g-data { >> ex1:ride1 a taxi:Ride . >> ex1:ride1 taxi:hasDriver ex1:p1 . >> ex1:ride1 taxi:hasPickupLocation ex1:pickup1; >> } >> >> and >> >> ex2:p2g-data { >> ex2:myRide a taxi:Ride. >> ex2:myRide taxi:hasClient ex2:p2 . >> ex2:myRide taxi:hasPickupLocation ex2:myPickupLocation . >> ex2:myPickupLocation a s:GeoCoordinates ; >> s:latitude "48.213814" ; >> s:longitude "16.340870" . >> } >> >> We want that merge to happen in such a way that the shapes in >> ex1:p1g-shapes and ex2:p2g-shapes can be evaluated, which will >require to >> merge some of the nodes. (In the example, we'll find out that a >> taxi:hasPickupTime property is missing. One of the participants is >then to >> add that property, and the whole structure becomes valid according to >both >> goals' shapes.) >> >> The question is how exactly to achieve that merge. Intuitively, the >result >> in this case should be >> >> :mergedNode1 a taxi:Ride . >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasDriver ex1:p1 . # note: p1 links her own >> identifier to the structure >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasPickupLocation :mergedNode2; >> :mergedNode1 a taxi:Ride. >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasClient ex2:p2 . >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasPickupLocation :mergedNode2 . >> :mergedNode2 a s:GeoCoordinates ; >> s:latitude "48.213814" ; >> s:longitude "16.340870" . >> >> and after removal of duplicate triples >> >> :mergedNode1 a taxi:Ride . >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasDriver ex1:p1 . >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasClient ex2:p2 . >> :mergedNode1 taxi:hasPickupLocation :mergedNode2 . >> :mergedNode2 a s:GeoCoordinates ; >> s:latitude "48.213814" ; >> s:longitude "16.340870" . >> >> (I currently don't care about the URIs of the mergedNodes - just >something >> one can mint when doing the merge) >> >> >> Do you have any hints on how to perform such a merge reliably, also >with >> more complex structures? >> >> Thank you very much in advance! >> >> Best regards, >> Florian >> >> >> Links: >> 1. Negotiations discussion thread: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/ >> Public/semantic-web/2017Jul/0004.html >> 2. Agreements paper: http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1934/contribution-07.pdf >> >>
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