Re: sameAs.org

Hi Miel,
Yeah, I've been wondering about the LDF angle, but can't work out what it would do for sameAs.org, more than resolution already does.
All the server does currently is return the triples that match the subject and single property pattern.

I can't see anything I can run on your software page that would serve what you want.
Maybe it is easiest if you just hack up a proxy? ;-)
I'd be happy to run something on the server, if that helps.

Hugh
> On 6 Feb 2017, at 08:55, Miel Vander Sande <Miel.VanderSande@UGent.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi Hugh,
> 
> Very relevant to me, as I wanted to use it for live query federation with Linked Data Fragments (http://linkeddatafragments.org). I was thinking of building a proxy, but something native would be better of course.
> 
> I suggest to simply publish the dataset as a Triple Pattern Fragments API (all software is already available, see http://fragments.dbpedia.org/en ) or have a hydra (http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/core/) description of your new service to aid LDF clients.  If you’re interested, let me know.
> 
> In any case, an available RDF data dump would be very useful.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Miel
> 
> 
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> 
>> On 03 Feb 2017, at 15:55, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> Thanks.
>> Can I just warn you that the API for it may change in the near future! (That is, it will become more REST-like modern.)
>> You may be interested in some of the sub-stores that are national library-based:
>> http://sameas.org/store
>> And there is also a store that is drawn from solely library sources:
>> http://sameas.org/store/kelle/
>> Best
>> Hugh
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 14:44, Tim Thompson <timathom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hugh,
>>> 
>>> Like Andy, I haven't used sameAs.org before, but it looks like a valuable resource indeed. My library is currently taking steps to reconcile our legacy data and add URIs, and I can see us making use of the service.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your work!
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tim A. Thompson
>>> Metadata Librarian (Spanish/Portuguese Specialty)
>>> Princeton University Library
>>> 
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/timathompson
>>> tat2@princeton.edu
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> Welcome!
>>> 
>>> Yes, I've been meaning to add the wikidata data for a while.
>>> But sort of putting it off because the current machine is past its last legs., and the software it runs on is no longer supported.
>>> 
>>> I'm very happy to work more closely with wikidata - there will be a lot of stuff I have that isn't there.
>>> Partially because we have been around for so long, and a lot of URIs have died; see, for example
>>> http://sameas.org/html?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdata.kasabi.com%2Fdataset%2Fchembl-rdf%2Fchemblid%2FCHEMBL13296
>>> I consider dead URIs are still useful, certainly fro lookup.
>>> Also, I cast the net quite wide (high recall, low precision) for the main sameas.org store, since it is a search mechanism.
>>> I suspect that this might cause problems for putting stuff into wikidata.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your message - I feel encouraged to do the work :-)
>>> 
>>> Hugh
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 11:25, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Do you ever use sameAs.org?
>>>> 
>>>> [First post - hello, everyone!]
>>>> 
>>>> I hadn't seen sameAs before, but it looks useful, and I will do in future.
>>>> 
>>>> That said:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) It doest seem to know about Wikidata. For example, given
>>>> 
>>>>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42
>>>> 
>>>>     (or https://www.wikidata.org/enity/Q42 )
>>>> 
>>>> it doesn't return anything other than the input; and given:
>>>> 
>>>>   http://sameas.org/html?uri=http://viaf.org/viaf/113230702
>>>> 
>>>> it doesn't include the above Wikidata item in the values returned.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) It may be that all of sameAs' functionality can be provided by
>>>> Wikidata, now or in the future. This may be done indirectly - see, for
>>>> example
>>>> 
>>>>   https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/resolver.php
>>>> 
>>>> as explained at
>>>> 
>>>>   http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/finding-orcid-wikidata-wikipedia/
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>> 
>>>>    https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/beacon.php
>>>> 
>>>> as explained at
>>>> 
>>>>     http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikidata-beacon-match-orcid-authority-control-identifiers/
>>>> 
>>>> 3) You may have data that is not yet in Wikidata. It would be good to
>>>> look at how this could be imported there.
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Similarly, you are welcome - and encouraged - to use Wikidata's API
>>>> and/or dumps; it has a CC0 licence.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Mabbett
>>>> @pigsonthewing
>>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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