- From: Paul Houle <paul.houle@ontology2.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:16:12 +0000
- To: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com>, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <emd78fd3f3-f169-4bfd-95ec-ae30691b7acc@cecille>
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoClean ------ Original Message ------ From: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com> To: "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> Cc: "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>; dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net; "public-rww" <public-rww@w3.org> Sent: 8/16/2017 10:41:24 AM Subject: Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Refurbished draft thoughts... >Hi again. > >Can anybody tell me if 'comparing' entities in an ontology is a valid >(type / attribute / instance identity) alignment method. For example, >could there be a way of calculating 'distances' in such contexts? > >For example for 'sorting' entities categories by types, attributes, >attribute values and subject identity (in a, for example, temporal or >other contexts). > >From the document: > >Functional properties: idempotence. Versions. Topics. Streams. Protocol >headers (ordered Etag: order relationship aligns contexts: attributes, >identity / types). > >In context of an attribute comparison: having same attribute / same >value. In context of type / identity comparison: being same type / same >instance. > >Comparison result values holds metadata (0 being equal, negative / >positive values indicating encoded 'distances'). Contexts (type / >instance / attributes) occurring in a (temporal / >revision) context. > >Best Regards, >Sebastián. > >Regarding square wheels, I'll give them time for the angles to get a >little bit smooth... Thanks to the examples given I think I soon will >get them much more round. > >https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk ><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk> > >Best, >Sebastian. > >On Aug 6, 2017 3:39 PM, "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com> >wrote: >>Hi, thanks all for your replies. I'll be reviewing them carefully. For >>what I'm doing, I must admit, it seems to me now I was kind of trying >>to reinvent the wheel, but such a 'square' one. For some reason: >>ignorance, lack of domain knowledge, bipolar disease or whatever I >>thought the time has come for 'square' wheels with the Semantic Web. >> >>Apologies for the bunch of posts in which I *stated* this kind of >>stuff. While I'm sending here a last 'draft' for 'square wheels', from >>now on I'll better try to digest what is already out there trying to >>learn what I can from my web developer position. >> >>Best Regards, >>Sebastián. >> >>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk >><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk> >> >>On Aug 4, 2017 12:46 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> >>wrote: >>>On 8/4/17 10:02 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote: >>>>Hi, I've updated my thoughts draft (in a very fuzzy and incomplete >>>>manner) with content I've pulled from my older drafts. I must >>>>apologize if the contents are not concise or clear as they should. I >>>>didn't have much time for cleaning up things. >>>> >>>>But if reading between lines is possible: I try to state the >>>>possibility of a 'Node' based SW as an approach of making >>>>'applications' as the 'server/browser/content-type' approach was >>>>best suitable for a Web of 'documents'. >>>> >>>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk >>>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk> >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>>>Sebastian. >>>> >>> >>>Sebastian, >>> >>>Please take time to digest: >>> >>>[1] >>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api-economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a >>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api-economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a> >>>-- covers REST, MVC, and a Semantic Web of Linked Data >>> >>>[2] >>>http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data-virtualization-across.html >>><http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data-virtualization-across.html> >>>-- Conceptual Data Virtualization >>> >>>[3] >>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid-browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7 >>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid-browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7> >>>-- Simple YouID Exercise (re. verifiable identity that scales to the >>>Web). >>> >>>All of the posts above cover application of existing open standards >>>in enterprise settings. Basically, issues relating to: >>> >>>[1] Identity >>>[2] Identification >>>[3] Authentication >>>[4] Data Representation >>>[5] Data Virtualization -- across disparate data sources >>>[6] Data Manipulation . >>> >>>Kingsley >>>>On Jul 29, 2017 11:53 AM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> >>>>wrote: >>>>>On 7/29/17 2:05 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > It's just thoughts about making what HTML did for 'web' >>>>>applications >>>>> > but for SW (RDF) instead for 'whatever' applications... >>>>> > >>>>> > My point should be that SW should not have as much 'trouble' as >>>>>HTML >>>>> > did for being useful having 'real' business applications (beside >>>>> > academia) running on top of it. >>>>> > >>>>> > We could skip much of the cumbersome work that was trying to >>>>>build use >>>>> > cases over a distributed *document* edition system (with all the >>>>> > 'amendments' it imposed) trying to build applications over a >>>>> > distributed *data* edition and linking framework. >>>>> > >>>>> > At least for what I know we only have (lots of) protocols... >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk >>>>><https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk> >>>>> > >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > Seb. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>Hi Sebastian, >>>>> >>>>>HTML exposed the Web by way of User Agents (e.g. Browsers) that >>>>>implemented support. The notion of a Semantic Web requires >>>>>extending >>>>>said Browsers to understand other hypermedia document types, which >>>>>has >>>>>also been the challenge for many years. >>>>> >>>>>While a lot of work has occurred re., building out the server-side >>>>>infrastructure for webby structured data (using RDF Language and >>>>>LInked >>>>>Data principles), the end-user productivity side of things has been >>>>>playing catch-up. >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, here are some client-side related applications and projects >>>>>aimed at building on the HTML+Browser foundation to expose the >>>>>virtues >>>>>of a Read-Write Semantic Web of Linked Data: >>>>> >>>>>[1] http://osds.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Sniffer Browser >>>>>Extension >>>>> >>>>>[2] http://osde.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Editor >>>>> >>>>>[3] http://youid.openlinksw.com -- Verifiable Identity based WebID >>>>>and >>>>>WebID+TLS protocol (while also supporting other authentication >>>>>protocols) >>>>> >>>>>[4] http://dokie.li -- Read-Write Editor and Social Sharing combo >>>>>that >>>>>doesn't leave your work in a silo, while also leverage features >>>>>from >>>>>items above (e.g, use of YouID) >>>>> >>>>>Screencast Demo Links: >>>>> >>>>>[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4 >>>>><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4> -- Taking and saving >>>>>notes >>>>> >>>>>[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s >>>>><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s> -- Controlling access >>>>>to >>>>>content derived from note-taking activity >>>>> >>>>>Links: >>>>> >>>>>[1] >>>>>https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer-cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab >>>>><https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer-cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab> >>>>>-- Semantic Web Layer Cake illustration tweak, explained. >>>>> >>>>>I hope this helps! >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Regards, >>>>> >>>>>Kingsley Idehen >>>>>Founder & CEO >>>>>OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) >>>>> >>>>>Weblogs (Blogs): >>>>>Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ >>>>><http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/%7Ekidehen/> >>>>>Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >>>>>Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen >>>>> >>>>>Profile Pages: >>>>>Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ >>>>><https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/> >>>>>Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen >>>>><https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen> >>>>>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen >>>>>Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >>>>><https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about> >>>>>LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >>>>><http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen> >>>>> >>>>>Web Identities (WebID): >>>>>Personal: >>>>>http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i >>>>><http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile..ttl#i> >>>>> : >>>>>http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this >>>>><http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Regards, >>> >>>Kingsley Idehen >>>Founder & CEO >>>OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) >>> >>>Weblogs (Blogs): >>>Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ <http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/> >>>Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >>>Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen >>> >>>Profile Pages: >>>Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ <https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/> >>>Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen <https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen> >>>Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen >>>Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about <https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about> >>>LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen> >>> >>>Web Identities (WebID): >>>Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i <http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i> >>> : http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this <http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>_______________________________________________ >>>DBpedia-discussion mailing list >>>DBpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net >>><mailto:DBpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion >>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion> >>>
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