- From: Sebastian Samaruga <ssamarug@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:39:08 -0300
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAOLUXBvoW5LUeubCaiqyfocJxHWVST6HCyigEaEPSCvzVU7A6w@mail.gmail.com>
Hi, thanks all for your replies. I'll be reviewing them carefully. For what I'm doing, I must admit, it seems to me now I was kind of trying to reinvent the wheel, but such a 'square' one. For some reason: ignorance, lack of domain knowledge, bipolar disease or whatever I thought the time has come for 'square' wheels with the Semantic Web. Apologies for the bunch of posts in which I *stated* this kind of stuff. While I'm sending here a last 'draft' for 'square wheels', from now on I'll better try to digest what is already out there trying to learn what I can from my web developer position. Best Regards, Sebastián. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk On Aug 4, 2017 12:46 PM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > On 8/4/17 10:02 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote: > > Hi, I've updated my thoughts draft (in a very fuzzy and incomplete manner) > with content I've pulled from my older drafts. I must apologize if the > contents are not concise or clear as they should. I didn't have much time > for cleaning up things. > > But if reading between lines is possible: I try to state the possibility > of a 'Node' based SW as an approach of making 'applications' as the > 'server/browser/content-type' approach was best suitable for a Web of > 'documents'. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIA > f4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk > > Kind regards, > Sebastian. > > > Sebastian, > > Please take time to digest: > > [1] https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/swagger-the-api- > economy-rest-linked-data-and-a-semantic-web-9d6839dae65a -- covers REST, > MVC, and a Semantic Web of Linked Data > > [2] http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2015/07/conceptual-data- > virtualization-across.html -- Conceptual Data Virtualization > > [3] https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/simple-youid- > browser-extension-usage-exercise-57fa3ff6c6b7 -- Simple YouID Exercise > (re. verifiable identity that scales to the Web). > > All of the posts above cover application of existing open standards in > enterprise settings. Basically, issues relating to: > > [1] Identity > [2] Identification > [3] Authentication > [4] Data Representation > [5] Data Virtualization -- across disparate data sources > [6] Data Manipulation . > > Kingsley > > On Jul 29, 2017 11:53 AM, "Kingsley Idehen" <kidehen@openlinksw.com> > wrote: > >> On 7/29/17 2:05 AM, Sebastian Samaruga wrote: >> > >> > It's just thoughts about making what HTML did for 'web' applications >> > but for SW (RDF) instead for 'whatever' applications... >> > >> > My point should be that SW should not have as much 'trouble' as HTML >> > did for being useful having 'real' business applications (beside >> > academia) running on top of it. >> > >> > We could skip much of the cumbersome work that was trying to build use >> > cases over a distributed *document* edition system (with all the >> > 'amendments' it imposed) trying to build applications over a >> > distributed *data* edition and linking framework. >> > >> > At least for what I know we only have (lots of) protocols... >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASr >> mvAIAf4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Seb. >> > >> >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> HTML exposed the Web by way of User Agents (e.g. Browsers) that >> implemented support. The notion of a Semantic Web requires extending >> said Browsers to understand other hypermedia document types, which has >> also been the challenge for many years. >> >> While a lot of work has occurred re., building out the server-side >> infrastructure for webby structured data (using RDF Language and LInked >> Data principles), the end-user productivity side of things has been >> playing catch-up. >> >> Anyway, here are some client-side related applications and projects >> aimed at building on the HTML+Browser foundation to expose the virtues >> of a Read-Write Semantic Web of Linked Data: >> >> [1] http://osds.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Sniffer Browser >> Extension >> >> [2] http://osde.openlinksw.com -- Structured Data Editor >> >> [3] http://youid.openlinksw.com -- Verifiable Identity based WebID and >> WebID+TLS protocol (while also supporting other authentication protocols) >> >> [4] http://dokie.li -- Read-Write Editor and Social Sharing combo that >> doesn't leave your work in a silo, while also leverage features from >> items above (e.g, use of YouID) >> >> Screencast Demo Links: >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vOr6fthFB4 -- Taking and saving >> notes >> >> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-yrSU1qx4s -- Controlling access to >> content derived from note-taking activity >> >> Links: >> >> [1] >> https://medium.com/openlink-software-blog/semantic-web-layer >> -cake-tweak-explained-6ba5c6ac3fab >> -- Semantic Web Layer Cake illustration tweak, explained. >> >> I hope this helps! >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen >> Founder & CEO >> OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) >> >> Weblogs (Blogs): >> Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ >> Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >> Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen >> >> Profile Pages: >> Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ >> Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen >> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >> >> Web Identities (WebID): >> Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i >> <http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile..ttl#i> >> : http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/k >> ingsley.ttl#this >> >> >> > -- > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software (Home Page: http://www.openlinksw.com) > > Weblogs (Blogs): > Legacy Blog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen/ > Blogspot Blog: http://kidehen.blogspot.com > Medium Blog: https://medium.com/@kidehen > > Profile Pages: > Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/kidehen/ > Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Kingsley-Uyi-Idehen > Twitter: https://twitter.com/kidehen > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > Web Identities (WebID): > Personal: http://kingsley.idehen.net/public_home/kidehen/profile.ttl#i > : http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/kingsley.ttl#this > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > DBpedia-discussion mailing list > DBpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion > >
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