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Re: Keeping the Faith

From: Dominic Oldman <doint@oldman.me.uk>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:12:01 +0100
Message-ID: <CAHVLp00SaMdxSRU4_-=c1OCK3xsQNSaD8ULAGurYr2owgJe5Ew@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jean-Marc Vanel <jeanmarc.vanel@gmail.com>
Cc: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Dear Jean-Marc

The vision was that knowledge systems from different domains (disciplines)
would be transferred to the SW. Currently some domains have adopted SW more
than others and these areas are developing useful information relevant to
adoption, both from technical perspective and, perhaps now more
importantly, a user perspective. I can point to some of the
features/components that you talk about in Cultural Heritage/Humanities but
which could have wider application.

The British Museum (funded by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation) launches a
100% SW application this summer for use by non-technical subject experts
working in the humanities, (some current features at
https://youtu.be/TgeJhWhiyrc) underpinned by a strong knowledge
representation system, and there are other LOD/SW systems being produced in
this community. In producing these system we develop new
knowledge/understanding.

Dominic


orcid.org/0000-0002-5539-3126

On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Jean-Marc Vanel <jeanmarc.vanel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Tim's vision is as great as ever,
> but all the data silos like FB , G+, LI resist the move to Linked Data,
> because this would mean a change in their data based business.
>
> That's the social network side of things, where Solid is laying down good
> foundations.
>
> On the side of institutions data (state, museum, etc) LOD is strong.
>
> The weak side of the semantic web is certainly in the software tools. But
> this is a domain where progress is possible.
> We have quite low level tools like SPARQL databases, parsers, etc. But we
> lack a lot of tools that SQL has, like
> - data administration
> - web frameworks
> - ETL
>
> We need for each programming language a SPARQL and LOD based web
> framework like there are for SQL: Ruby on Rails, Django, Simfony, Play! ...
> This will allow to leverage on the assets of semantic web: reusable data
> and data models.
> Currently alas the RDF community is like louse eating on the back of SQL
> data; we need to build RDF data directly from 100% RDF applications.
>
> Another field where SW and SPARQL databases would shine, given some
> attention and tests, is enterprise data;
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_management
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_data_management
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_intelligence
>
> After all, SPARQL databases are graph databases, but standarded by the
> W3C, and graph databases are already established in this field.
>
> Hope these hints will cheer up Brant :) .
>
>
> 2017-04-29 9:06 GMT+02:00 Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> On 29 April 2017 at 01:11, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> General Question:
>>>
>>> How do you keep the faith or vision with respect to semantic web and
>>> linked data? I'm also in an area where there is not a lot of venture
>>> capital (well some) nor (many) people having a lot of understanding of
>>> the area. At least it does not score you a talk. Is the field of
>>> dreams mentality of "if you build it, he will come"?
>>>
>>
>> You have to think about what is possible in the future.
>>
>> When television came out, it was not popular.
>>
>> Im inspired by this vision:
>>
>> “...I have a dream for the Web [in which computers] become capable of
>> analyzing all the data on the Web: the content, links, and transactions
>> between people and computers. A ‘Semantic Web’, which should make this
>> possible, has yet to emerge, but when it does, the day-to-day mechanisms of
>> trade, bureaucracy and our daily lives will be handled by machines talking
>> to machines. The ‘intelligent agents’ people have touted for ages will
>> finally materialize...”
>>
>> Tim Berners-Lee
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -Brent Shambaugh
>>>
>>> GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh
>>> Website: http://bshambaugh.org/
>>> LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259
>>> Skype: brent.shambaugh
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh
>>> WebID: http://bshambaugh.org/foaf.rdf#me
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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